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Gnizmo said:
windbane said:
 

My point is there is a reason that the story elements are often praised. And yes, if 50 billion flies like dung, that kinda shows that the dung is good for flies. MGS is good for a story-based videogame that has great gameplay, too.


 I want to go on the record right now and say I hate you for what you are about to make me say.

So you would agree that the Wii is the best console this generation? 13 million people can't be wrong right? McDonald's is also better than anything you can get in a fancy restaurant. Nintendogs is clearly the best game made in the last decade, and far better than all 3 MGS games combined! Carnival Games is better than Uncharted, Folklore, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank and a host of other PS3 exclusives! Wii Play is better than every PS3 game in existence! Popularity != quality.

A bunch of people liking it does not make it good. It just makes it popular. There can be an arguement made for popularity pointing to quality, but that is the begining of an arguement, and not the end of it as I think I demonstrated. I could go on to list possibly thousands of examples of very popular games/books/movies that are actually god awful. Some of them I even love (hai2u Stargate SG-1!).


ok, of course you've got a point like I also said, popularity doesn't by definition equal quality of course, but you must watch out with these kinds of comparison like with that flies comparison, 'cause this one is also a bit false; cause McDonalds is less good than a good restaurant of course, but that's comparing totally different genre's. You can say that in the fastfood genre, McDonalds actually is one of the best, and it isn't so popular for nothing. Just like you could say the plot of Metal Gear actually is quite good, but of course not when compared to great books and novels made by some of the great minds in the last centuries who have been writing stuff down and rpgs also have a context that gives much more space for greater story-lines.. also with the wii comparison.. the Wii actually IS great, but you must see it in a certain context and genre, what do they want with the Wii, who do they target with the games, if you know that then you'll see it actually is great from that point of view.. if you understand what I mean



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