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midrange on 03 June 2016
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Kai_Mao said:
midrange said:

Miyamoto didn't direct luigis mansion dark moon, or Mario maker, or splatoon, or Galaxy 2, or skyward sword. These were all made by other Nintendo teams.

SF0 is not mixed. This may be the title that puts the starfox line to sleep for a while due to low performance.

here's the problem with constant experimentation: Some people don't want "unique" things shoehorned into games. Starfox zero did not need to be locked into that weird control scheme, but miyamoto did it to be "different" and as a result, starfox suffered. Paper Mario changed because of him and his quest to make the series "different" from past iterations. The wii u's hardware was largely influenced by his desire to be "different" (third parties clearly didn't like it and now ALL of them are gone).

Miyamoto had at least an influence in most of these projects. He wasn't a director for SF0 (just producer) or Guard either. He was the producer of Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon by the way.

im just saying reception wise, SF0 was mixed. Some people like it, some don't. It reflects upon the scores and the various comments made whether it's here, YouTube, Twitter, etc.Sales-wise, it's unfortunate considering, in my opinion, it's not a bad game. We probably won't see another entry for while, but who knows considering a lot of their games didn't particularly sold like hot cakes like Woolly World, Tropical Freeze, etc. Sure they sold a million, when you consider their predecessors' sales, it's disappointing. Granted being on the Wii U is a factor.

And as someone mentioned previously, Miyamoto was not really the guy behind the Wii U, Iwata was. The Wii U was his just as the Wii, DS, and 3DS were. Not trying to put all the blame on Iwata (God rest his soul), just pointing it out. Miyamoto had to help make the game pad a selling point, which ultimately didn't work.

Miyamoto definitely had a lot of creative influence over starfox. There have been numerous interviews about this and likewise, Nintendo is not going to lend full control of their IP to any third party studio (platinum games). Yes it was dissappointing and the sales definitely reflect this. Note: I'm not comparing the sales of starfox to Call of duty, I'm comparing them to sales of other wii u games (so install base shouldn't matter).

Miyamoto definitely had an influence on the wii u, as did Iwata (nothing says that only ONE person had to contribute). He wanted the gamepad and even with their advantages, Ubisoft ended up making better gamepad games than Nintendo (rayman legends and zombiu)