When is murder justified by self-defense?

[Azuren]

vivster said:

Teeqoz said:

You've went from "If a person wants to willingly physically harm another person it always deserves death." to "We already have laws in place to decide what is extreme and what not. It's called "life long" sentence. I see no reason to keep those people alive when they're proven to be extremely harmful to other people."

First one = extreme

Second one =/= extreme

So which is it?

I'm only talking about violent crimes. Every violent crime that deserves a life long imprisonment, deserves death. Of course there are more crimes that deserve death but they are harder to quantify. Would need new laws.

In a perfect world all people that willingly and seriously harm their fellow humans should be greated by instant death. They have nothing to give society and only take away from it.

It's clear that Teeqoz doesn't want to discuss just the violent crimes where guilt is proven without a shadow of doubt. He wants to generalize all crime together to discredit you by claiming you want death penalties for misdemeanors, and then to question the vague line between normal and ultrviolent crime.

 

And Teeqoz, please stop doing that. There are laws and regulations that determines how violent a crime is, but I'm sure Viv isn't a lawyer and therefore likely incapable of giving you the lawyer answer you seem to be craving. It's clear you have more faith in people, and that Vivster does not.