When is murder justified by self-defense?

[Teeqoz]

archer9234 said:

Teeqoz said:

If your intention is to do what it takes to defend yourself, but you accidentally kill them, then that is not what this thread is adressing (at least not from what I can tell). Killing someone by accident in self-defense is completely different from killing someone purposely.

That's what I saw from this thread. Who here said they're killing the person on purpose? No one. They're defending the family as they see fit. Unless the person was using the burglars head as a basketball. The burglar gave up, and they still killed the burglar. Or this was a setup. It should automatically be self defense. And these people should be banned from suing the family they burglared. That's a crook of shit.

If it's anaccident, it's an accident. You weren't trying to kill him, so it doesn't matter. People here are talking about using lethal force in self-defense, which is not the same as punching someone and hitting loose a blood-clot leading to the perp getting an aneurysm.

A user in this very thread has said he would kill someone to the best of his ability as long as they're in his house. He did not say he would do what it would take to protect himself and his family from harm, and if he had to kill him/her to achieve that, so be it. No, he actually said that he would kill them to the best of his ability (presumably no questions asked either) as long as they're in his house. People thinking that human life is so easily expendable scares me.