When is murder justified by self-defense?

[hudsoniscool]

t3mporary_126 said:

hudsoniscool said:

If me or my kids are in danger, I would do whatever it takes. If someone breaks into my house they are done. Honestly whether that person intends to harm us is irrelevant to me. Said person doesn't deserve the air they are breathing.

I can see that. But that's a bit extreme. Why would the burgular want to kill if they aren't caught yet? If there is a burgular, if possible, it may be safe to keep your and your children's distance from them especially if they're crazy. They are mostly after the money and not murder anyway. 

It would just depend on the circumstances. But when I hear about burglars suing when they get shot it makes me want to vomit. What kind of country would put someone in jail or make them pay money for shooting a burglar who breaks into a house without "warning them" first. So stupid. The person is obviously not a safe or friendly person if they have broken into your house. Warning them may be all they need to kill you and your family. Nope not in my house. If someone breaks into my house and threatens my kids there life is worth nothing to me. I would kill them in a hartbeat and no give 2 shits about it. And if they happened to live I would tell the cops that I warned him/them first and I would stick with my story because I live in a country where I have to warn a criminal who has broken into my house and threatened the lives of me, my wife, and my kids.