Second MGS4 review in -score 92 "story too complex"

[Ajax]

shio said:

Ajax said:
why do you say that? so you already concluded for yourself that I haven't played any of those.. strange..

so did you play any of them?

billy07 said:

shio said:

Ajax said:
The greatest story of all the games I have witnessed is by far and easily Xenogears' story, and that story is also the most complex I know, but it's genius.. G-E-N-I-U-S

I suggest you play Planescape: Torment, Deus Ex, Fallout 1&2 and Grim Fandango before you say anything like that.

Have you even played XG? That game craps all over the onnes you mentioned in terms of storytelling. Hell, out of the ones on your list only PC and DE even make a remote attempt at trying to mentally stimulate the player though still not to the mind fuck depth that XG did

I'm a videogame stories fan, and try to play the best of them (provided I have the means for it). It is by no coincidence that my 2 favorite genres are RPG and Adventure.

I would rate Xenogears' story a 6.5/10 (maybe 7), since I remember it sort of crumbles halfway through, and most characters were uninteresting.

Xenogears was not deep nor complex, it only had a big ass story. MGS2's had complexity, but the story itself was destroyed by it (not a good trade-off if you ask me).

 

You've got to be joking dude, you really have got to be joking. You've clearly shown that you don't know the story of Xenogears at all. And that doesn't matter, you can't know everything, and I sometimes also say something without having thought about it good enough, but then when I realize my mistake, I show character, and admit that I actually miss the right knowledgde of the stuff I commented about. If you still stand by your comments, I might even take the time to brake the story somewhat down for you.. from Nietzsche, to Jung, to Freud to much more..