Society lets you go from an asshole to "truther" with one word

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hershel_layton said:

Allow me to give some examples:
"Women are horrible" Asshole
"Men are horrible" Absolutely fine
"Black people need to stop doing crimes" Asshole
"White people need to stop doing crimes" Absolutely fine"
I don't enjoy fat people" Asshole
"I don't prefer skinny people" Absolutely fine
"Muslims need to reform and solve their issues" Asshole
"(insert group of a  religion) need to reform and solve their issues"  Absolutely fine
"(Joke about gays)" Asshole
"(Joke about heterosexuals)" Absolutely fine
"Liberals are stupid" Asshole
"Conservatives are stupid" Absolutely fine

Do you see a trend? It's funny how society is so hypocritical and judgemental. People apparently love free speech, but if it goes against them, they go apeshit and throw words that have no importance due to how commonly used they are. Racist, sexist, xenophobic, and so on. I mean, dear god,  it's disgusting how millenials shaped society.

As a millenial, I am absolutely sorry for how stupid we are. I didn't think our past generation would fight so hard for equal rights just to have some buffoons go ahead and seperate us even more.

If you see the examples I listed, all I did was take out one word or phrase. That's it. It's funny how in real life taking out one word or phrase can determine if something is politically incorrect or not.

Edit: Perhaps my point of the thread wasn't clear.

This isn't me complaining about jokes. I receive jokes about being terrorist all the time. I could care less. It's probably something that's irritating(rather than problematic), but I think the double standards placed for certain people is annoying. Why shouldn't everyone be prone to criticism or thoughts from others?

Also, I understand that disadvantages come for certain people. That's obvious. We aren't equal in all aspects, so unfortunately some people are on top of others. However, what I realized was that Social Justice Warriors don't unite people. Instead, all they did was seperate people even more and make us have biased and generalized views against groups of people. The method millenials have chosen to address our issues has backfired incredibly. Maybe we should have realized that we all are in the wrong and right? 

hershel_layton said:

binary solo said:

I disagree, all of the examples in the OP are bad.

Lemme think. Making critical comments and jokes about a currently and or historically oppressed demographic, by a member of the demographic who used to be, or still is, the oppressor is more likely to be objectively offensive and inappropropriate and assholish than being critical or making jokes about the oppressor demographic. Seems pretty legit to me. I don't really understand why people don't get this. But still making broad negative generalisations about the worth of any demographic group is, generally, entirely inappropriate and is pretty much never absolutely fine. Which is why even if some of the exmaples in the OP are less badly wrong than others, they are all still wrong.

Humour does not exist in a vaccuum and it can be used to further belittle and denigrate an already disadvantaged group, or person.

Humour is the last thing I care about. As I said, it's when we reach serious conversations does this double standard effect truly take place.

Look at the cases of Muslims and black people. Face it, we have an issue with some black people and some Muslims. however, people just say "it's not all of them" and drop the issue. However, if it were with a different group, people will explode and go nuts.

Your last point is also what I'm trying to say. I don't like being mean to anyone at all. I'd rather be respectful than rude to people for no reason.

I think you're overracting to a perceived "political correctness" or "SJW" takeover of the public conversation which doesn't actually exist, although I'm sure there are some people out there as bad as what you are imagining.  (I have witnessed people demanding trigger warnings for trigger warnings.) 

Look at your examples.  It's not considered absolutely fine to say "men are horrible" any more than it is to say "women are horrible" ... although there are assholes that will say otherwise for both sides.  I've seen it coming from both genders. 

"White people need to stop doing crimes" Has anyone actually said this? 

"I don't enjoy/prefer fat/skinny people" is just a statement of personal taste, I guess that would be talking about in personal relationships?  Like, "I prefer women with breasts within cup size range B to D"?  If it's a judgmental thing like "fat/skinny people are bad people" then both are asshole things to say but it is far far more common to be said against fat people which is why there is more anger against it. 

Religion:  Both are definitely wrong.  One of the biggest reasons they are wrong is that the major religions are spread out among many denominations and populations, e.g. Catholics vs. Lutherans vs. many other Protestant groups; Arabic Muslims, African Muslims, East Asian Muslims; and so on.  Aside from whether these groups can be fairly accused of needing to clean up their act, it's certainly wrong to ignorantly mix them together and claim they all have the same internal problems.  Catholic sex scandals vs. for-profit megachurches vs. televangelist scam artists. 

Gay/hetero:  let me just point out that when you were asked to give a joke about heterosexuals, the example you gave was actually a joke on the subject of gays, changing "gay-bashing" to "straight-bashing" for the purpose of creating an allegedly humorous effect.  I'm not entirely sure where the humor is supposed to be found, but in any case it's not really a joke about heterosexuality. 

Liberals/conservatives:  Ah, the big one.  Idiots on both sides accuse the other side of idiotic things, of course, but what about this supports your claim that "society" deems calling all conservatives stupid "absolutely fine"?  Maybe you are only noticing the injuries that hurt you.  You can't feel the other guy's wound.