Former McDonald's USA CEO: $35K Robots Cheaper Than Hiring at $15 Per Hour

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Netyaroze said:

LMU Uncle Alfred said:

 

@Bolded.  That's exactly what computing power is all about: Increasing speed and memory for pre programmed possibilities.  You can always increase it more and more.  It's just difficult to wrap one's head around how many atoms there are in the universe..but we have systems that can obviously produce such numbers.  This isn't about intelligence though.  There's more to the brain than just intelligence or creativity.  There's pain, growing, emotions and of course the big one that probably won't be replaced by robots: Empathy.  

Do you think you can get empathy or more importantly get people of all kinds to empathize with a robot?  People will want this when ordering from McDonalds.  The world is getting more and more isolated but there are still call center jobs for instance for people that need to remember such skills.  A large part of those jobs aren't just technical ability; it's selling comfort.

 no we do not have systems that come even close to this kind of computing power. just simple decryption can take the fastest computer thousands of years. deep mind won by studying human games and applying creativ thinking. read up on it. its impossible to calculate every outcome in this game. the capacities needed is trillions (just a place holder actually we dont have words for it) times higher than all computing power on earth. there is trillions ocf atoms in a grain of sand. imagine all planets and suns wich are sextillions. this game was chosen to prove computer ai evolved.

I think people will be able to emphasize with an R2D2 like robot more than with other random people. I can only speak for myself. The Human interaction is not the reason why I go to Mc Donalds. I do not feel isolated and I could not careless about emphaty from a McDonalds worker. I really really Doubt people care if the food is prepared by a Human they can not even see in the back of the restaurant. Actually its more sanitary if robots prepare the food. And to be honest a always friendly robot might also be the better cashier.

Edit: We do have some words that describe a similar number for the numer of atoms in the universe: A googol: 10^100.  According to some sources the number of atoms in the known unverse is about equal to 10^80.  A googolplex is just insane and I can barely wrap my head around how we could use that number.  It's equal to a 1 with a googol number of 0s behind it!

It's not necessarily about computing power though.  The fact is we hardly know that much about the brain to begin with..so what algorithms could we even use in the many other parts of the human condition?  There's the essence of unpredictability in each person's day by day reactions as well which we also empathize with and in which would be extrememly difficult and maybe even dangerous to put in a robot.  I guess this is where Skynet comes in.. Oh shit.

 

I know I said McDonalds, so yeah maybe people would be ok with not getting human service there or other fast food places; hard to say.  I know many of us who linger on the internet are ok with it, but you'd be surprised even then.  In other places that require more interaction it's an impossibility at this current time.  We first would need a grasp of all of the reactive possibilities of every person that has ever existed.  But even after that it gets much more complicated.  The current problem is our understanding of the brain.  Until we can fully grasp that, robots will never replace humans in the working world.

 

It would be neat though.  We'd never have to work again :)....there would only be artists.  Maybe even robot artists, but imo it would be wise to leave that out so we feel important somehow.