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shio said:
HappySqurriel said:
TheRealMafoo said:
HappySqurriel said:
Zucas said:
Story too complex? Oh come on similar reasons why they marked down on NMH. Said not understandable cause it was punk. Well if they'd fucking understand punk before passing judgement then there wouldn't be a problem. God I hate reviewers.

Complex stories are not necessarily a good or a bad thing, but depending on why they're complex may make it a good or a bad thing ...

In general, I tend to prefer simple plot lines where the complexity in the story comes from character development. As an example of what I mean, the story line of any of the Star Wars prequels is far more complicated than the stories of the original trillogy, but (in my opinion) the original trillogy is far better because the lack of complicated story details allowed characters to be developed fully.

Movies like Van Helsing and Wild Wild West often seem much more silly than movies with a similar tone, like the Mummy, mainly because their story is so complicated that it destroys any believeability.


yea, but movies like "LA Confidential" are far better because they are complex. It all depends on how they do it.


I don't disagree that when well done a complicated story can be great ... I won't get into it too much, but I have always felt that the "Great" storytelling in a lot of games like Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy is far closer to Van Helsing or Transformers than to good literature or movies.


Great storytelling in MGS and Final Fantasy?! Hahahahaha joke post must be

Grim Fandango and Planescape: Torment is great storytelling. MGS and FF are crap compared to them.


 I've played and finished Planescape torment and the story is overrated. The writing is superb but nowhere are the philosophical allusions in the game as well developed as they are in MGS2. They touch upon certain subjects but don't examine them much beyond initial mentioning. MGS2 also redefines VG storytelling with arguably the first post modern plot in the industry.

 

And to whoever said MGS3's plot was complex, LOL.