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billy07 said:
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Zucas said:
Story too complex? Oh come on similar reasons why they marked down on NMH. Said not understandable cause it was punk. Well if they'd fucking understand punk before passing judgement then there wouldn't be a problem. God I hate reviewers.

Complex stories are not necessarily a good or a bad thing, but depending on why they're complex may make it a good or a bad thing ...

In general, I tend to prefer simple plot lines where the complexity in the story comes from character development. As an example of what I mean, the story line of any of the Star Wars prequels is far more complicated than the stories of the original trillogy, but (in my opinion) the original trillogy is far better because the lack of complicated story details allowed characters to be developed fully.

Movies like Van Helsing and Wild Wild West often seem much more silly than movies with a similar tone, like the Mummy, mainly because their story is so complicated that it destroys any believeability.


yea, but movies like "LA Confidential" are far better because they are complex. It all depends on how they do it.


I don't disagree that when well done a complicated story can be great ... I won't get into it too much, but I have always felt that the "Great" storytelling in a lot of games like Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy is far closer to Van Helsing or Transformers than to good literature or movies.


Or most anime. Complexity is only a good thing when it adds to the character development. When things go absurd (a la MGS series), the complexity becomes a burden and the story evolves into a convoluted mess under a shrouded veil of "depth". Depth is usually something that is brought on through subtlety, not by trying to pack in every looney idea that pops into the writer's head.


Still buying the game? :P Story "too" complex, and same "mistakes" made as in MGS2? Things aren't looking too good for you in MGS4 land...


It's a rental. If I like it, I'll buy it. What's the deal with MGO? Anyone know? Does it come with MGS4 or is it a separate game that I'll have to purchase? That will weigh pretty heavily on whether I buy it from Gamefly or not.




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