Pachter: I could see a bundle of PS4 Neo and PSVR for the old PS4 price

[Ganoncrotch]

Johnw1104 said:

Ganoncrotch said:

I'm probably worse for pointing this out, but @bold do you think that every game should also include the price of the console and TV when it is being marketed because obviously a disk is useless without them.

And @ underlined, I wasn't aware that the oculus included the high spec PC required to use it, that is very cheap in comparison to the PSVR if it is the case indeed!

The bold was merely to point out that it's still an entry cost approaching $900, as console owners so love to point out that you need a $1,000 PC to use the Oculus. There's still a large ~$600-$800 gap (both will drop as hardware improves and PS4's become cheaper), but those who like to point at the high costs associated with the Oculus or Hive seem to forget that it's still damn expensive for an inferior product on the PS4.

As for the second, I'll put it simply as you seem to be confused: The Oculus actually comes equipped with everything you might need to fully experience the device on your PC. Sony's VR, however, and I'll use the asterisk from their site:

 "*PlayStation®4, PlayStation®Camera and PlayStation®VR software sold separately."

They didn't even include the Playstation Move in their asterisk, which will also be used. Likewise, and while I understand this isn't necessary in the Sony VR's case I feel it's worth mentioning to further show how poorly priced this is in comparison with the Oculus, you get an XBox 1 controller and a full game included with the $600.

Essentially, you get the complete package with Oculus, whereas Sony's VR has left essential parts out to feign a lower $400 price.

For the record, I don't have any dislike for the SonyVR and, assuming it doesn't wind up being bad, I plan to get it. This marketing, however, utilizing asterisks and tiny fonts, is deceptive. 

"Consider that the Oculus, a superior piece of hardware,"

"it's still damn expensive for an inferior product on the PS4"

It appears that you have made your opinion on the SonyVR really and would be strange for someone who sees it as being the more costly inferior option wouldn't just stick with the PC options of the same products.

I don't get this anyway, if the product was sold at $500 but it included the camera/move/a game/an xbox one controller or whatever then a lot of PS4 owners who have those items already would be a little upset at being forced to buy them again... but that would only effect PS4 owners of course.