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Dulfite said:
Ka-pi96 said:

So you're going to bring the Wii games in to this? Which completely flopped this gen and are practically 'non-existent' now...

Besides, compare any other gen and Nintendo certainly isn't always that strong. PS hasn't yet got an exclusive that has outsold the best selling Wii U exclusive, but with how successful Uncharted 4 looks to be it may well have soon.

So what of gen 6?

3. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 2001 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 6.85 5.09 1.87 1.16 14.98
1. Super Smash Bros. Melee 2001 Fighting Nintendo 4.41 1.04 1.39 0.22 7.07
1. Halo 2 2004 Shooter Microsoft Game Studios 6.82 1.53 0.05 0.08 8.49

Sony had the highest selling 1st party game that generation, by quite a large margin as well. Not only that but Microsoft's best selling 1st party game also outsold Nintendo's best, on a console with a comparable install base no less.

Gen 5?

1. Super Mario 64 1996 Platform Nintendo 6.91 2.85 1.91 0.23 11.89
1. Gran Turismo 1997 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 4.02 3.87 2.54 0.52 10.95

Super Mario 64 sold more than Gran Turismo, yes. But it's not exactly a large difference.

Besides, you haven't addressed the most important point. If people don't want Nintendo 1st party games now (if they did they would have bought a Wii U) why is having 3rd party games alone suddenly going to make Nintendo's 1st party more appealing?

As far as I see it it's simply not possible for Nintendo to 'wipe the floor globally' unless Sony screws up because the PlayStation brand is just that strong. Even when Sony did screw up (PS3) and Nintendo had their most successful home console to date the gap is still less than 20m. Yes, they could win a generation, but it's going to take a more than just getting 3rd party support to do that.

1) You brought up the 360/ps3 generation by saying Halo 3 and TLOU. That is not my fault. If you wannt compare gen 6 or 5 or whatever gen, I'd be happy to, but you brought up that gen.

2) What on Earth makes you think people don't want 1st party Nintendo games now? Notice the 1st party game sales. Yes they are less than Wii but that is because a TON less Wii U's have sold and will sell compared to Wii. In fact, there were 7.8 x more Wii's sold than Wii U's (as of today) So you'd think that would mean that 1st party game sales would be 7.8x less using your logic right? Wii U top 8 sales are 35.02 million units sold makes it 7.6 x less. Which means that proportionally, the amount of people buying 1st party games per console has increased, slightly, by .2 times, hardly a decrease let alone fulfilling your opinion of "people don't want Nintendo 1st party games now (if they did they would have bought a Wii U)."

3) And you proved a massive point by showing how Nintendo still has the best selling exclusive this gen despite having a massive amount less hardware sold.

4) Playstation as hardware is incredibly strong, because 3rd parties made it. Their 1st software itself isn't that strong. And if the Wii had HD tech like the ps3, the gap would have been an insane amount larger than 20 mil. People wanted Wii's, but they also wanted high definition games (which the Wii couldn't provide) so a lot of people ended up with two devices. If people could have played hd multiplatform games from 3rd parties on the Wii a ton of them wouldn't have bought a ps3 I'm sure.

1 Mario Kart 8 WiiU 2014 Racing Nintendo 3.09 2.00 1.23 0.49 6.81
2 New Super Mario Bros. U WiiU 2012 Platform Nintendo 2.33 1.23 1.27 0.30 5.13
3 Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS WiiU 2014 Fighting Nintendo 2.75 1.02 0.77 0.36 4.90
4 Nintendo Land WiiU 2012 Misc Nintendo 2.54 1.09 0.46 0.33 4.41
5 Splatoon WiiU 2015 Shooter Nintendo 1.69 1.09 1.32 0.27 4.36
6 Super Mario 3D World WiiU 2013 Platform Nintendo 2.09 1.07 0.72 0.30 4.17
7 Super Mario Maker WiiU 2015 Platform Nintendo 1.15 0.82 0.87 0.19 3.02
8 New Super Luigi U WiiU 2013 Platform Nintendo 1.27 0.61 0.18 0.16 2.22
9 Wii Party U WiiU 2013 Misc Nintendo 0.33 0.52 0.83 0.08 1.76
10 The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker WiiU 2013 Action Nintendo 0.89 0.52 0.14 0.12 1.67
11 Mario Party 10 WiiU 2015 Misc Nintendo 0.68 0.48 0.23 0.11 1.49
12 Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze WiiU 2014 Platform Nintendo 0.71 0.47 0.15 0.11 1.45
13 Hyrule Warriors WiiU 2014 Action Nintendo 0.61 0.41 0.13 0.09 1.24
14 Yoshi's Woolly World WiiU 2015 Platform Nintendo 0.58 0.45 0.11 0.10 1.24
15 Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker WiiU 2014 Puzzle Nintendo 0.55 0.34 0.19 0.09 1.16
16 Pikmin 3 WiiU 2013 Strategy Nintendo 0.43 0.29 0.29 0.06 1.07

"And if the Wii had HD tech like the PS3" it would've costed about twice as much as it did, and would have seen much less success than what it did. On the other hand, if they had been able to achieve the same price, but *still* be HD capable like the PS3, then Nintendo would have to be wizards. Whichever of those you choose, the proposition is so silly that it's not even worthy of discussion.