| Runa216 said: I have also seen both films, once each just for fun, the second to actually analyze the film. If you honestly don't see the two as being night and day in style, aesthetic, mentality, and quality, then you're not really looking. The reviews, the box office, the crowd responses, the ticket sales, etc...all that shows that one was the superior film. I don't disagree that sometimes peopel can not 'get' a movie, or sometimes a shitty movie can make a lot of money (Minions, for example), but when a movie makes money it does so for a reason. Transformers makes a lot of money (especially overseas) because it has cool action sequences, big flashy explosions, and people know going in that the film is pretty terrible and that they can shut their brain off. furthermore, lowest common denominator jokes are easier to translate than subtle cultural references and explosions are universal. Batman v Superman did well, but underperformed because it's a bad film and people hated it. It had no heart, no soul, no love behind it. It looks pretty and has some great themes and ideas in it, but with how much Batman was killing and Superman was scowling and Luthor was prancing around like the riddler, it wasn't well liked. It was 'wrong'. everything about that movie is wrong. yet, a 'wrong' thing can still be 'right' if done well. Iron Man 3 got a LOT of scorn for its portrayal of the mandarin, but within the realm of the film series that had been created, Trevor Slattery made sense. it's just as easy to go "You know...that makes sense" as it is to scream and throw something at your screen. With Batman v Superman, every other scene there was some variation of "Why the hell did that character do that? What is this? where are we? who is this?" because they don't make their movie correctly. No establishing shot, poor editing, dour tone, poorly conveyed characters, and an absolutely pants-on-head retarded climactic fight scene. And no, I'm not just a fanboy. I like good movies regardless of their source. it just so happens to be that Marvel movies are pretty universally better than DC movies. (with the exception of the original superman, original batman, and the Dark Knight/Batman Begins). Honestly, I wish DC could learn from their animated films, those are pretty universally awesome. |
Transformers makes more money then the majority of films that doesn't mean it's better than all of them either way BVS made almost a billion and considering this is only the second film in a unified DC set that's a good start and your post highlights what I mean about double standards when you start arguing about what's wrong in BVS.
Captain America starts randomly assaulting officers of the law out of the blue the second his friend becomes a topic and even in the chase scene he's ramming vehicles of citizens to try and shake Black Panther off, you let the Mandarin issue slide because it's in the realms of what has been created yet Lex Luther himself is the same in BVS he was more like the earlier incarnations in the comics when he was more mad scientist like as opposed to his latter incarnation. Batman in the comics also started ignoring his own rule after the second Robin died so in fact BVS was closer to its material then CW was.
For someone who claims to not be a fanboy you're coming across as as one with this response no offence, I don't even have a preference of either Marvel or DC I just watch them to be entertained. To highlight flaws in CW the villain wants revenge yet rather than release the potential enemies who can fight and defeat the Avengers he knocks them off and waits and the plot just conveniently has Ironman, CA and TWS all turn up at the same time this is even more outlandish then the attempts by Lex in BVS at least the latter put in a good performance for his role as a villain Zemo was hardly a factor at all and his backstory was like 5 minutes. For a film about the consequences of their actions it ends with no change at all despite the events that have taken place which considering the whole Civil War saga in the comics had enormous effect on things afterward, instead the whole situation is brushed of like last Tuesday no doubt in preparation for Infinity Gauntlet and Infinity War.
As I said before both films have the same flaws and neither is better or worse it just comes down to whether someone likes something darker in tone or not.
