| JustBeingReal said:
Firstly, Notebooks and PCs are not comparable to consoles, when it comes to cost breakdowns or the business model of each, the notebook and pc markets are entirely reliant on making money from hardware, not video games or DLC or anything like that. Nintendo doesn’t make huge profits on each console sold, they also get discounts on components needed to make these devices. It’s an outright fact that the costs of components to video game platform creators are lower because they buy in bigger volumes of a specific part, not multiple differently spec units and dedicated games devices don’t have the mark up of dedicated PC or laptop devices, they also don’t have the profit margins of tablets or smartphones, because of how the dedicated gaming business works, games are where the money is made or in DLC, not from the hardware, at best it makes a small profit.
Sources for wii’s low power being a core part of its design philosophy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#cite_note-Miyamoto_Speaks-28 Miyamoto said: "The consensus was that power isn't everything for a console. Too many powerful consoles can't coexist. It's like having only ferocious dinosaurs. They might fight and hasten their own extinction." Again Wii U carried on this philosophy, by focusing on the gamepad integration and not system performance, providing value for the money. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nintendo-nx-wii_us_5661a031e4b072e9d1c5b1b2 Kimishima’s statement about NX being different, not following in Wii or Wii U’s footsteps: “I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U. It’s something unique and different. It’s something where we have to move away from those platforms in order to make it something that will appeal to our consumer base,” Both Wii and Wii U both have low performance as a key part of their design philosophy, NX is going to be very different, ergo it won’t be low power like those systems. N64 has nothing to do with this generation.
Now let’s look at the very markets that Nintendo has to consider. It’s got everything to do with either new people that haven’t gamed before or people that are yet to move on from PS3 and Xbox 360. For the current PS3 and 360 gamers those people have been content with those consoles for a while, but they’ll be looking for something new at some point. Wii U wasn’t enough to make them want to buy into that platform, so tech on that level isn’t going to do a thing for them. They’re predominantly playing 3rd party games, so NX needs to have those titles if it’s going to get those gamers. Getting a new audience means being able to make experiences that you haven’t delivered yet and that requires new hardware, with new capabilities, along with creativity, so it comes down to the tech and the games/entertainment, PS3, 360 and Wii U didn’t entice those people in, not with their level of tech so your idea of similar power level devices doing so, just isn’t going to cut it.
There are also existing Wii U owners that are the Nintendo faithful. Those people aren’t going to just buy a system with the exact same level of performance and nothing new to offer those people that really have an impact on gameplay or the overall experience they’re getting with a Nintendo system.
There is no audience for Nintendo besides these areas of the market.
Wii U failed because it was overpriced for the weak tech involved, going for the same level of specs again, but pricing them lower isn’t going to entice the audiences I’ve mentioned above in this post. Also Wii U was only on the market for 3 months before PS4 got announced and 6 months before Xbox One got announced (killing any enthusiasm for a new platform), it launched 6 years after the 7th gen HD twins had already owned the market, with a completely different set-up of hardware that 7th gen games weren’t designed around, so there was no reason for developers to port their games to it and it lacked the X86 architecture, over 1TFlop GPU tech and significantly bigger and faster memory set-ups that 8th gen games were designed to used, so that’s why it didn’t get any love when developers moved on to making X86 games exclusively. The industry has moved on and now we’re in the middle of the 8th gen, X86 era, Nintendo has to cater to this, not make something separate from it, because this is their market. 3rd party developers provide the majority of the market focus for games, Nintendo needs them or they’re going to get left behind yet again. The Arm market is for supplementary processors for things like decoding, encoding or for Smartphone devices, maybe tablets, but X86 is significantly more capable and also offers efficiency. The fact that AMD can provide a powerful, efficient System On Chip that can put the CPU and GPU, with console level tech on one silicon package, at an affordable and efficient level means it’s a no brainer for Nintendo to use that. Cheap and weak will not get Nintendo anywhere, it would be a cheap failure, because it has no substance, so it makes zero sense to try it out. This idea of yours will actually end up costing Nintendo what little brand value they have.
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Sure, a PC compared to a console will always be more expensive. But the prices are still set in relation. You cant sell a 1000 dollar system for 500 bucks without taking a loss. Thats just not possible. You can for sure be 200-300€ cheaper at most.
Again: just the statement NX will move away from wii/wii u doesnt mean it will be powerfull. Move away from wii/wii u by using an ARM chip is WAAAAY more likely.
NX probl wont get many third party titles. Even the wii u didnt got MANY thrid party titles in its first year, it got just like 50% (in terms of aa/aaa games).
Many third partys dont consider nintendo as an good partner. Mario and Assassins Creed dont work togehter, they learned that from the wii u.
The NX will offer something new to ps3/x360 and wii u owners. Beeing able to play new games on the same quality on the go and for an really cheap priece. Many people arnt that much into performance, its alot more about the image and the games. The ps4 was the first console in a looong time that was the best selling AND strongest. All prev. generations weaker hardware outsold expensive hardware.
Even WITH ps4 and xbox one announcement the ps3 and xbox 360 outsold the wii u in its first year. Third partys still developed games for the 7th gen 2 years after ps4/xbox one releases.
Cheap hardware is nintendos only chance. They failed to often with trying to compete in terms of power with the competition. If NX is just a more capable Ps4 which plays nintendo games and will get some third party titles. it will be Gamecube2.0.
So as we know talked about the "fence => ventilator" thing, how do you thinka fen will work in an handheld? The only x86 chips for far that dont need an ventilator are the Atom chips and intel core M´s. Atoms are weaker then modern ARM chips and intel core M´s arnt much more powerfull either but extreme expensive.
