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d21lewis on 08 May 2016
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JWeinCom said:
d21lewis said:
I read Civil War. Not just the 7 issues of the main story. The whole 100+ issue event and many of the events (ie: Wolverine: Enemy of the State) leading up to it. A lot of what happened, I saw a mile away. I knew they wouldn't have the guts to kill someone at the airport or make Stark a total bad guy but, for what it was, I really enjoyed it. My wife, on the other hand, thought it was a confusing mess but she has only seen a few MCU films.

I greatly enjoyed BvS, too. In a lot of ways, they were the same movie. Whatg I hate is that a lot of things that film was bashed for happen in this one, too! My nitpicks...

-Cap says: I heard the name "Bucky" and suddenly, I'm a helpless 16 year old kid, again.
-Cap can hold down a helicopter? He just jumped up and grabbed it and pulled it back down to earth! WTF!?!
-Black Widow is in a SEALED armored vehicle with two other guys and a bomb. The explosion BLOWS THE DOORS OFF and she comes out unharmed!
-Aunt May is waaaay sexier than I'm comfortable with.
-People hated that Lex Luthor knew who the heroes were in BvS but I bet they're totally okay with Tony Stark knowing who Spider-Man is based on found footage.
-Black Panther was every goddam where. Even flying a jet following Iron Man without him knowing.
-Bucky's human arm was stronger than Iron Man's armor arm!!
-The black guys ended up in jail and shot. RACISTS!
-Somebody said a variation of "He won't stop" or "I won't stop" like 300 times!
-Zemo was nothing like he was in the comics. If you're okay with his changes, you have to be okay with BvS changes. If not, you're a hypocrite!

There was once scene that was pretty much the cover of Civil War #7. I get hard just thinking about it!
Okay. Carry on.

First off, Aunt May was way sexier in the Sam Raimi version.

Other than that, the points seem minor, except for the last one.

On that note, there is a big difference between changing Zemo and changing characters like Batman or Superman.  The difference is that nobody really gives a fuck about Zemo.

Nobody came to the movie thinking "man I really can't wait to see Baron Zemo on the big screen"!  Baron Zemo is nobody's favorite character, except for like one weird German dude.  Fans don't give a shit about them changing Zemo, because nobody gives a shit about Zemo.

Batman and Superman are different.  Lots of people give shits about them.  People came to see that movie specifically because they wanted to see Batman and Superman.  These are arguably the two most iconic characters in comicdom, and they have very passionate fans.  

In short, the reason people care about Batman killing people and not about Zemo not being all ugly and purple is the same reason that you complained about Baron Zemo but didn't complain about the changes made to Miriam Sharpe (the black woman in the movie who lost her son).  It's not the principle of changing things, it's just that we care about certain characters and how they're portrayed, and we don't care about others.

I was actually competing Zemo to Luthor.  He's one of Cap's biggest and most recognized villains.  I think only red skull is more recognized.  He was even Citizen V, leader of the Thunderbolts.

But yeah. People don't read comics so I see what you're saying. They just complain about what they think they know about comics. Basically, they want what they're familiar with. Marvel gives people what they want to see and that works out pretty well for them.

I put that post together in seconds. I barely tried. I could tear the film a new ass with inconsistencies and such but, truth be told, I loved it. I love most comic book films. I grew up in the 90's! I appreciate what we have, now!