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hoala said:

- Release in march / miss holiday season

- No e3 presence

- Teased as something "completly new"

- Nintendos recent decissions (Star Fox dual screen force, Splatoon map rotation and no voice chat, Amiibos) Its not like Nintendo is evolving in anything i like, to be honest they are getting worse and worse imo.

- Release mid cycle (Ps4 will already have games like: Witcher 3, Final Fantasy 15, Metal Gear Solid 5, Batman Arkham Knight, Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, Bloodborne, Dark Souls III, Battlefront, The Last Guardian, Dragen Age Inquisition, Destiny, The Division, Tons of fifa, cods, madden, assassin creed games, watchdog/watchdogs 2, Mirrors Edge Catalyst, Tomb Raider, Mass Effect Andromeda, GTA 5, Deus EX Mankind divided, No Mans Sky, Street Fighter 5, Tekken 7, Mortal Kombat X, Ratchet and Clank, Tons of great ps3 remasters.).

And what will the NX have in 2017? Zelda, Mario and metroid if we are really lucky. Sorry but thats not like a good competition.

 

I dont think it will be a tradional console. At best it will be something similar to the wii and adress Casuals. I doubt they will get good third party support (third partys hate "completly new" features they have to use, make porting more difficult).

The wii u was planned to get great third party support. That didnt happned, why?

Because of bad third party title sales and poor console sales on general.

With a march release nintendo will miss the holiday season which is extremly important for them (on of their biggest customer groups are children, they cant buy a console in march but get one for xmas).

These "bad" sales will overshadow at least the first half year of the NX => which makes it to a "wii u2". bad Third Party sales will stop third partys to develop/port games for NX, no third party support will stop people from buying the console.Doom loop.

 

 

Game droughts:

Even if Nintendo manages to get alot great games at launch and in first year, thats just possible because of the lacking wii u library.

In March 2017 Nintendo themself will released almost no big games for wii u for the past 2 years (only Mario Maker and Splatoon that are both more then 1,5 years away and MAYBE Paper Mario (dont know who is developing that).

All other games got made by external studios: Pokken (Bandai Namco); Zelda TPHD (Tantalus), Star Fox (Platinum Games)

If the NX is even more powerfull then the wii u, game development will even take more time and ressources. Games like Battlefront look extremly content lacking because so much ressources went into the graphics. Nintendo just have small teams, they cant make many of those games per year.

Nintendo also didnt hired many new developer for NX. The teams are still pretty much the same. Without third party support, NX will most likely get even less game then wii u.

 

Also:

Many Wii U Owners arnt satisfied. Well even many Wii Owners werent 100% satisfied with the console. Many old owner will most likely not buy a new nintendo system just again. Sony did it right with the ps3: Take a loss with the ps3 but satisfy the consumer. And now the ps4 is selling like hotcakes.

Thoughts?

You assuming too many negative things, its you opinion but some thing doesnt make sense:

-Bringing Splatoon like example of bad decision doenst make any sense, beacuse Splatoon is actualy biggest win for Nintendo this gen, totaly new IP that sold 4.3m on instal base of 12.8m. Splatoon sold better than Halo 5, actually is best selling new IP of this gen and Splatoon is outpacing the first entries on some of the biggest franchises in Japan. Who then really cares about map rotation (actually suits game great) and no voice chatting, I say bring more staffs like Splatoon.

-Nintendo really can evolve with current hardware and services, they need new hardware and services in order to evolve, and NX will have new hardware and services.

-3D Mario, Zelda and Metroid are not good!? You are really not know what you are saying, also you assuming that NX will not have 3rd party at all, but reality is that even Wii U in its first year had solid 3rd party solid.

 

-New feature doesn't mean that for 3rd party will hard to develop, I doubt that Nintendo after Wii and Wii U will want to force 3rd party to use some gimmick. Also NX will probably have similar architecture and power to PS4, that means much easier ports for 3rd party than they done on Wii and Wii U.

-Wii U had 3rd party support but after terrible Wii U sales in first year all abandoned them.

-Its way to early to say that NX will have bad sales even with March launch.

 

-Do you know why last bigger Wii U game that is not port/remaster, spinoff or small project is announced at E3 2014!? Becuse they bacicly in 2014. chainged focus from Wii U to NX.

-Also their some unanuced Wii U project that are moved to NX, like Pikmin 4, Retro project, Next Level Game game...almost all biger Nintendo teams realsed their Wii U games long time ago, and most of them are on shedule to relase new games in NX 1st or 2nd year.

-Nintendo will definatly have some more 3rd party exclusives like Lego City Undercover, Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Fatal Frame 5 and co-devolped project like Hyurle Wariors and StarFox Zero. They will definitely have much more ports/remaster in order to fill schedule hols.

-Nintendo talked about unified platform, that basically means handheld and home console division will make game for same platform and not for separate platforms like before. Also they recently merged their home console and handheld divisions. That means faster otuput of games than before.

-They said they missing holiday season with NX to have proper lineup of games, I am sure NX will have great launch and 1st year lineup, Wii U had bad and weak launch and 1st year lineup and thats one of reasons why failed.

 

-PS3 had only one real problem that was fixible, high price, after Sony lowered price PS3 start selling. Wii U situation way more complicated, Wii U was bloody mess, Nintendo made to many mistakes that were not so easy fixable, after 1st year Wii U was dead. I dont think its problem at all that some minoroty of 13m Wii U owners will not buy NX becuse that si very small number.