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Alby_da_Wolf said:
AsGryffynn said:

They didn't release the X360 early. The GC was already dying and the PS2 was outdated. They were starting early, but that was well into the seventh generation... 

And second place if you count the Wii fad. The X360 was ahead of the PS3 when the Wii U was revealed. 

Wii fad is quite a funny way to define Wii, considering that even having stopped selling earlier, neither PS3 nor XB360 managed to reach its sales. Also, it died early for Ninty's fault, it still was the best selling console when Ninty started clumsily killing its sales far too early before Wii U launch.
And when Wii U launched, XB360 was still outselling PS3 by little more than 2M LTD, having lost 60% of its initial lead, and it lost it all during the following years, and it's also going to lose the lead in boxed games sales, although it will probably keep forever the lead in 7th gen dgital sales.
If you want to claim that they fixed their early mistakes in an excellent way, I can agree at 100%, but this cannot cancel the fact that they almost completely wasted XB360 early launch. And that early launch actually was rushed, MS was forced to cut original XB production before it reached its full potential sales because NVidia outsmarted it with a one-sided contract for the GPU and it was making it bleed money.

It was a fad because it was the tracking and cheap price that made it popular. It was more of a toy than the other two... 

But it was still outselling it and that's all that I claimed. The PS3 was newer and had a longer life cycle so I can see it living on longer to overtake the outdated console... 

Yes it was. The failure rate of the original Jaspers was because they had forced manufacturers to adhere to deadlines (MS's long time enemy) so that they could release it earlier since Nvidia shafted them. However, the gen was already near it's end, having started to lag behind and eventually ground to a halt as soon as the 360 was out (except for the PS2)... 

Swordmasterman said:
AsGryffynn said:

They didn't release the X360 early. The GC was already dying and the PS2 was outdated. They were starting early, but that was well into the seventh generation... 

And second place if you count the Wii fad. The X360 was ahead of the PS3 when the Wii U was revealed. 

The proof that they launched the Xbox 360 Early, is the  Failure rate % that the console had, was Too high in the beggining, i think that you had more chances to purchase a Broken Xbox360, than a good one, i think that is not $ Healthy for Microsoft, or for the Video Game Industrie, if they Rush something in those state again.

PS3, out-sold Xbox 360, when GTA V launched, you need to compare sales when the Next Gen consoles from each one that we are comparing, launched, and PS3, took the Edge  in the last months of the PS3, and Xbox 360, the Xbox 360, also had 1 Year head start, 1 Year more in the market, if the 2 launched in the same year, the PS3, would have Sold more sooner than later.

MS is known for rushing things. The deadline mentality they use on the PC side is rather awful for console sales... 

Also, the PS3 had a larger library. Of course it'd outsell the X360. At least in the long run. 

As for the GTA stuff, Modern Warfare 3 sold better on the X360... Your point? 

deskpro2k3 said:

Assuming this article is right MS might gain some, but you can't make a comeback if you've already lost the race.

Unless they somehow lengthen this race, I agree... 

 

And failure rate was 23 percent guys... 

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6216691.html