Okie_Loki said:
The Avengers isn't a fair comparison in any way, and I think you should realize that considering how well thought your post is. How well established was the MCU when the first Avengers broke? 6 films? 7? This is the SECOND film in the DCEU - Green Lantern would have been first but they're scratching that entirely and rebooting. Man of Steel was the ONLY stepping stone for BvS and for it to reach $800 million IS a success in its own right. And for such a success Deadpool was and how Marvel fans are screamimg about it, BvS surpassed it WW already. Of course, we can't deny how sluggish this has been since week 1, but it wasn't a complete failure either. It'll inch close to $900 million which is impressive no matter how you spin it. Do I agree that in many ways this should have easily hit $1 billion? Yes, and I do blame some of that on Snyder and the critics reactions to the film. If the film had even 50% favorable reviews, it'd probably be over $900 million this weekend. It was slaughtered by critics (right or wrong), and it's up to WB to learn from BvS and make Justice League and the rest of the DCEU better. |
doesn't matter how many films led up to it. It matters that Superman AND Batman are more well established in the cinematic realm than any of the Avengers were. Batman is a billion dollar franchise when directed by Chris Nolan by HIMSELF. Then you throw in Wonder Woman and you should get Avengers money. The first crossover in a continuity should make a billion minimum as Avengers established with lesser known characters. That's poor structuring that they had their Avengers and blew their load before they had established anyone.
It's like if Avengers had been the second MCU 2 1/2 years after Iron Man and he had fought Cap who was just being introduced then they threw in Ms Marvel and had Iron Man die at the end. Oh and Cap got a vision from Vision about Thanos invading and watched youtube videos of Thor, Black Panther, and the Hulk.
The worst part for DC is that they won't get that initial crossover money from Justice League now. We've seen the trinity together so they can't use that as a big selling point and they'll throw in their lesser characters as a reason to get excited. Sure I like Flash on TV but it's more of an Age of Ultron adding a couple guys effect rather than a "OH MY GOD THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER!" kinda effect like with Avengers. They've also ruined the Superman character by killing him off and having him act really weird in public. Like no one even liked him when he died and Batman and Wonder Woman were at the funeral...why? They didn't know him at all and one of them had been trying to kill him until 10 minutes before his death.
Bottom line is quality is king and even the worst of the MCU is entertaining. I wouldn't rate any of their movies below a 6/10. I would put MoS at 6/10 and BvS at 4/10 and critics pretty much agree that this is a bad start. HOWEVER suicide Squad has an awesome director and some serious talent that seems to fit the roles perfectly. I won't be a fanboy and act like I'm sold on the little bit they've shown us and Joker looks mighty questionable (never been a Jared Leto fan) but Harley and Deadshot look dead on. I'll be there opening night just like I was for BvS so here's hoping I don't walk out with that same sense of disappointment.
I am Iron Man
