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zorg1000 said:
naruball said:

Not my point. My point was that if the consumer is actually interested in a product, they will buy it no matter what (the name, etc). The xb1 clearly proved that. It seems that no that many people were interested in wiiu since those signs didn't help that much, now did they? What seems to be the case is that people would ask clerks what the hell wiiu was, not that they had an interest in buying one after finding out.

XB1 doesnt prove anything, Microsoft dropped  Kinect, reduced the price by about 1/3 within a year while also having further temporary discounts, they have constant marketing along with timed exclusives/exclusive marketing/exclusive bundles from many of the biggest games on the market and it has a constant stream of software.

If Nintendo dropped the Gamepad, cut the official price of Wii U to $199 within a year, had a constant stream of software, year round advertising and exclusive marketing/bundles for games like Madden, FIFA, Fallout, Division than it would certainly be doing much better.

Yes it does. It did well from the very beginning. Before dropping kinect and before the price cut. Obviously people who had an xb360 were happy enough with it to buy its successor. The same can't be said about wii, except for the hardcore fans who would buy the next ninty console no matter what.

You're still missing my point. Yes, Ninty could have done all that but didn't. My point is that a bad name, a bad launch and a bad peripheral do not stop a console from selling well. That's what xb1 proved. It's time people stopped blaming the name for the failure of a console that most people didn't want in the first place. Same with psvita which is my favourite console. Had people enjoyed psp enough they would find out what its successor is called. The name wasn't the reason why both wiiu and psvita didn't do well.