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LudicrousSpeed said:
BMaker11 said:

And what games would that be? The new games announced

Just gonna cut off your reply right there, never said anything about "new" games announced. It's pretty simple. What MS showed at E3 2015, and what Sony showed at E3 2015, a much larger chunk of what MS showed is actually out and playable now, and quite good, so I would give the win to MS. If you're more excited about the possibility of what Sony showed to be real good, then that's fine too.

For what it is worth, this is a retrospective look back almost a year later, but I enjoyed MS's conference more even during E3 2015, simply because I don't care much at all for games like Shenmue or Final Fantasy, so Sony's conference had a lot smaller impact to me.

So, like I said, you believe MS won E3 2015 because of games that were announced years ago finally released. Because the "much larger chunk" of games that they showed and have since released are 95%% a set of games that were announced way prior (Rare Replay was a new announcement).

Got it. The new criteria for "winning" E3 is to show the same games for years, and then, when they finally release, you can say "they showed Game X at E3 and it's actually playable now. The other team only showed games that will release much later". Makes sense. MS won E3 2015 because they showed games such  as Halo 5, and Halo 5 is playable now.....even though they've been showing Halo 5 since 2013. So, in a few weeks, will Sony have won E3 since Ratchet and Uncharted will be out, with Rocket League and SFV already having been released? Even though we knew about 3 of those games for a long time and they showed them year after year?

I'm really just trying to comprehend the logic behind this. I've never seen people say one company "won" E3 because games from old announcements that they repeatedly show finally release (for example, I doubt anyone was saying "Sony won E3 because of Uncharted 4" last June. UC4 was expected because they'd been ramming it down our throats for a few years). They've always "won" because of new announcements, in most people's opinions. I'm sure you thought MS won E3 2013 (ignoring the whole DRM fiasco)....because they showed games like Halo 5. Now they win E3 2015....because they showed Halo 5, but this time, it released soon after? Explain the train of thought behind this sentiment.