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LudicrousSpeed said:
Bandorr said:

edit: Nope not getting into this.

Good, because your reply missed the forest for the trees anyway. You can list games from E3 2015 that still haven't released yet from MS, and that's fine. I never said every single game MS showed at E3 last year released. But most of the biggest ones have. Plus there was BC, which was a huge feature for me. You can't argue it any other way. Literally, has any of the big games Sony showed at E3 last year actually released yet? Probably only the multiplat stuff.

And you don't need to say any BS about "god forbid Sony show games not coming immediately" or whatever it was. I never said or implied there is anything wrong with showing games a long ways off. I would give more points for games actually out now, though. You're welcome to disagree, and that's fine. But there was no need to catch feelings about it.

Also, you're right, some of those games that released recently, weren't debuted at E3 2015. Which makes whatever E3 they debuted at, completely and entirely irrelevant to this thread about E3 2015 :) Hope that helps.

And what games would that be? The new games announced were Recore, PvZ2, Dark Souls 3, Rare Replay, Sea of Thieves, and Gears 4. Are these the "big" games you're talking about? Recore, Sea of Thieves, and Gears 4 haven't released. And DS3 and PvZ2 are multiplatform (a status which you used to criticize Sony's announcements). So, Rare Replay? A bunch of games from almost 20+ years ago? 

What other games are "in our hands and playable now" that were shown at E3? Halo? Tomb Raider? Quantum Break? MS wins E3 2015 because games they announced years ago, but still showed at E3 2015, finally came out? 

This seems like a case of having your cake and eating it, too. You chastize him for listing games that haven't released....but then say "the biggest ones have", which, to me, seems like "MS has released X amount of games and Sony has released Y, and X > Y, so MS won", which contradicts you, essentially, saying listing games doesn't matter. And then, you chastize him for mentioning Sony showing games that don't come out immediately, but saying MS won because "you give more points for games actually out now".....but they are games that didn't come out immediately after being announced. If that's the case, Sony won E3 2015 because Rocket League came out in July, SFV came out in February, Ratchet comes out next week, and Uncharted 4 comes out in a few weeks. Even though we knew about 3 of the 4 years ago and Rocket League's release was pretty "immediate" after it was shown at E3. If that's the route you wanna go down.