Who here still loves a good RTS, city builder, grand strategy or 4X game, Arpgs?

[NobleTeam360]

RenCutypoison said:

NobleTeam360 said:
Only RTS games I like are Civ games and Halo Wars.

Civilization games aren't real time though.

OT : I love turn based strategy and city building games, but I didn't play any before 2005. It's kind of weird these games aren't as popular as they used to be, especially as they are traditionnally PC games and the PC gaming has gotten huge over the past few years.

Oh really? what are they then?