Star Wars 7.. What du you think now.?

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Soundwave said:

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According to The Farce Awakens apologist, the force awoke when Rey touch the lightsaber. That didn't happen with Luke or Anakin (the choosen one), but somehow with Rey. And thus, she became a Master Jedi capable of mind tricks and defeat a Sith Lord trained since his childhood by Luke.

 

I think calling a trash any of the 7 movies is going to far, but saying TFA is better than the OT or nitpicking that prequels have certain flaws and ignoring the same in the last one is hypocrite.

Edit: Not pointing at you, just pointing around the web. I've seen people that says TFA is the best movie ever, and not only from the SW sage, but overall. I mean, c'mon.

Errr ... pretty sure the "Force Awakens" as soon as Rey flies the Falcon, there's a scene right after where Snoke tells Ren that's there's been an awakening in the Force, have you felt it, blah, blah, blah. 

The problem with the prequels aren't neccessarily things like "plot". The problem with them is far more fundamental than that ... they're just incredibly poor written with terrible characters, awful acting as a result of a terrible script, no emotional connection for any normal movie goer, etc. etc. It was like watching top tier actors like Ewan McGregor and Sam Jackson and Natalie Portman act in a play that a 8th grader had written, it was painful and embarrassing. I genuinely felt bad for Natalie Portman. 

It's like a house that's built on a crooked foundation ... it can't function properly as a house from that point on no matter what else it has inside. 

TFA is a decent movie built on a solid foundation, it's on par with any of the better Marvel or Harry Potter movies. Is it as good as the Star Wars OT? No probably not, but not much is. The Star Wars prequels are in their categorey of suck with the dissapointing Matrix sequels and Hobbit prequels (probably worse than both of those to be honest). 

And there's is one in ESB when the Emperor talks with Darth Vader when they talk about Luke as a disturbance in the force. The powerful, cold, Darth Sidious needed a lot of time to feel it, yet Snoke felt it inmediatly? And thank god you talk about the Millenium Falcon. Rey is capable of flying, even through to hyper space at light speed in her first time and put the exact coordinates to not end crashing in a planet, and casually near to Han Solo's current ship, even when Luke never was capable and Han mentioned him in Episode IV that it is an exact process because flying at light speed is dangerous. Han is a noob, right?

Oh, and I agree that the prequels have all those flaws, just like TFA. The difference is that at least the prequels have an SW plot, unlike The Remake Awakens.

 

tokilamockingbrd said:

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According to The Farce Awakens apologist, the force awoke when Rey touch the lightsaber. That didn't happen with Luke or Anakin (the choosen one), but somehow with Rey. And thus, she became a Master Jedi capable of mind tricks and defeat a Sith Lord trained since his childhood by Luke.

 

I think calling a trash any of the 7 movies is going to far, but saying TFA is better than the OT or nitpicking that prequels have certain flaws and ignoring the same in the last one is hypocrite.

Edit: Not pointing at you, just pointing around the web. I've seen people that says TFA is the best movie ever, and not only from the SW sage, but overall. I mean, c'mon.

I think she has already had training. It was more about he recalling her suprussed memories than just learning the force on the spot. Remember in ROTS the younglings, they at a young age had a strong grasp of the force. Had she been trained, then at a young a forced to be hidden. It also would not be to far fetched for Luke to have "locked" up he memories of the nature of the force. 

In this case seeing a lightsaber could in fact "Awaken" some of those memories. Its a case of she knows how to use the force but she does not know(or remember) why. She has been using the force for years to survive in a place like Jakku alone. I am sure EP 8 will give more insight into this. 

Can a Jedi lock memories of training from a child? Can memory be unlocked simply by touching a lightsaber? If you recover your memory, can you recover all the skills that a child can aquire, despite not training by years? Why she wasn's able to awake in the first encounter with Kylo Ren? Why Kylo didn't freeze she in the second encounter?