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Cloudman said:
Aeolus451 said:

There's a lot of hidden weapons, gear and optional places to explore. The game has alot of replay value since it can be beaten in many ways and that it has multiple endings. 

I'm completely fine if a game can be beaten in a short time but it can also be played for a lot longer because it has the content to play through. Alot of rpgs are like that. So I don't want any rpg that can only be played for about 20 to 30 hours because it doesn't have to shit to do past a short main story. It's a cop out in a way.

A long playtime shouldn't be an issue to anyone regardless of their daily life because we can save our games and resume the game whenever we want. 

I don't think there's anything wrong if a game is considered 'shorter' than what a 'standard' is in certain genres. If a game is good and complete, then that is what should be important, personally.

That's the point I'm trying to make mentioning Chrono Trigger. It's short, but does it make bad? Most people would disagree with you, including me. Making it longer could make it better, depending on the game, but is definitely not required to make RPGs good or better. Heck, most of my favorite RPGs fall into these time lengths. What matters is creators make their games as long as they need to be, and not fulfill some 'quota'. I definitely don't see making a game that length a cop out.

So yeah, maybe that will hold true for SO5 as well. It's not good to judge the game based on its length.

You're missing my point, I think. Chrono trigger is not a short game but it can be beaten quickly. It has a standard playtime, though. 

Game 1 can be beaten quickly or in a short amount of time. On average, players beat it around 40 hrs or more. Playtime is optional. Quicky type of players and longer types of players are happy about game length.

Game 2 can only be beaten quickly or in other words, it's a short game. Only quicky players are happy while long the type of players' wants are thrown under the bus. Short RPGs will always piss off somebody because it will only make one group happy.