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Soundwave said:
bigtakilla said:

It really just needs a HUGE push at the beginning of the console's life cycle with complete games (The Wii U's first year was pretty much all third party games with missing collectors editions and no DLC), it needs to be on par with the PS4 at the very least, and it needs a decent price point. 

The third party games it gets that are late? They better freaking have exclusive content. The new games it gets, they need to have a collectors edition. And sad as it is to say, they need third party devs flat out telling us Nintendo will get all the DLC.

If it drops with around 8 games spread between first and third party, all with all the content and collectors editions, I think the story will be a bit different than Wii U. 

And I agree, it needs the console/handheld hybrid, or something that really changes the formula you simply can't get anywhere else. I also agree that's half the battle. Without a single game being announced, the viewers need to look at the console and say "yes, this is what I want". Because as you said (and I completely agree with), it lost out on being the first console with 4K media in some shape or form (especially if Sony releases their console in October, which would still be a month earlier than the NX for even the people that believe it is coming out this year). 

Essentially the NX is going to have to hit us with a double whammy. It HAS to be new and attractive and it HAS to release with a plethora of games (and not Wii U remasters people have made themselves believe is going to be SOOOOO attractive, it gives 13 million people no reason to upgrade). 

Here's the thing that Nintendo fans don't get ... most people aren't going to be THAT impressed even if Nintendo has Mario, Zelda, blah, blah, blah at NX launch. Also good luck convincing third parties t make exclusives for a platform that has no userbase versus the massive userbases the PS4/X1 had. 

Hybrid console that is portable is probably their best bet now simply because at least it would be different. 

They can't compete with Sony head on in the console space any more, not directly because they've allowed Sony to become too strong and given the PS4 waaaaay too much time to build a monstrous head start and even get a freaking PS4K upgrade out possibly before NX itself. 

Even Microsoft is going to be very hard to compete against, the PS2 only had a 18-20 million lead over the GameCube and it trounced the GameCube, even the XBox One will be well past 30 million units if NX is a 2017 product. 

Really to be honest any console releasing in 2017 should have competetive specs to the PS5/XB2 ... that is way too late for a PS4-tier console. Waaaaaaaaaaaaay too little, too late, it's far more likely to be the Wii U all over again ... Nintendo's PS3 released several years too late. 

They will be interested though, they get what they want and don't have to wait for it. Then when the userbase is solid during that first year, third parties may be more interested in throwing the console some bones instead of avoiding it like the plague. 

Releasing in 2017 with PS5 specs WILL NOT HAPPEN. The console would be vastly overpriced for people who are on the fence at best for Nintendo products. Even the diehard fans like myself would be skeptical to drop $500 + on a system that may not get any third party or extremely stripped down ports of products (like Wii U). 

There is simply no way people are going to buy it.....