| Ka-pi96 said: Yeah, that's some definite plot holes there. Especially what happened between the end of ep 6 and start of ep 7. I mean, they had a republic and everything yet they were still called 'the resistance'? Resistance implies they were rebelling against something, not representing an independant republic. A republic which we never even saw before they were effortlessly wiped out. Ya know, the death star worked because it was a weapon to be feared. It was powerful, but not overpowered. Their new weapon literally wiped out the entire republic in 1 shot? There's no realistic way they should be able to rebuild after that. The war should effectively be over. And yeah, there was some serious deus ex machina going on in there too, especially Rey. But hey, it never had any stupid annoying creatures so that's a plus  |
The resistance does not represent the republic. Leia tried to convince the republic that the first order was a serious threat, but she got shut down, so she left to found the resistance. When the Republic's capital was destroyed, the resistance had to step up and save the day.
As for the republic, it wasn't destroyed. The republic is a pretty big thing, it's not located exclusively in one star system. That's just their capital. It's like if Russia nuked Washington DC. It would be a huge blow, but it wouldn't completely destroy the US.
| FromDK said:
And then I saw Force awakens.. And I was.. to put it nice.. Very disappointed.. The movie startet a place I did not expect.. The galaxy was under the dark force controll.. and I got no bagground story, as to why that hapend.. also things like "The Resistance".. why not call them "The Alliance".. And offcourse Rey.. that somehow is almost stronger than a man that not only is Leias kid.. but also got training in both the light and dark side of the force.. There was more that for me didnt ad up.. Other things that proberly ad to the negative felling.. was that I saw it in 3d.. and me and my brother had some beers before. Then last night I saw it again (3 times) and not in 3d.. And I liked it much more.. most of the things I had seen as plot holes.. was or could be explained.. and also becourse I somehow had accepted the story.. I think it is a perfect setup for the next movie.. And i changed from not like it.. to totally ok and JJ did a good job. Others that have had that.. "thats actually a good movie" moment.. when they saw it second time..? |
The galaxy wasn't under the dark force control. The First Order is basically a terrorist organization.
Think about what happens in the real world when you take out a dictator like Sadaam Hussein. Things don't just magically become fixed. Other organizations try to fill the power vacuum. That's what the new order is. It's never stated or even implied that they control the galaxy. They were operating beneath the radar while they built their weapon, then once they had it, they began more overt aggresion.
As for Rey being stronger than Kylo... she's really not. We see her out-Jedi him twice. The first time is when he was trying to read her mind. She doesn't win the mental power because she's a better jedi, she wins it because Kylo is insecure and conflicted.
The second time is when they get all lightsabery. Two things to keep in mind here. First off, Kylo just killed his dad. He's going through some shit, and he's an emotional dude. He's probably not emotionally 100%. He's not physically 100% either. The movie makes a point of establishing that Chewbacca's bowcaster fucks shit up. It is basically a grenade launcher that directly hit Kylo, at a moment when he was especially vulnerable. Then, Finn wore him down a bit.
Rey wasn't a match for Kylo, and she would have been murdered in a straight up fight. That's why the deck had to be stacked.
I'm actually not a huge fan of the movie. I saw it, I enjoyed it, but I have no desire to see it again. That being said, people keep claiming there are plotholes and I'm just not seeing them.
