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thismeintiel on 18 March 2016
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Kai_Mao said:
thismeintiel said:

Well, that's some revisionist history right there.  No, the fact is Nintendo lost every gen it went up against Sony in, save one.  And last gen it was mainly Sony's fault that it stumbled out the gate, not the competitions.  Nintendo was also able to tap into the casual market, a market that is mostly gone now.  Still, the PS3 ended up only ~15M less than the Wii.  When Sony has won gens, the competition finishes nowhere close. 

And nothing is going to steal the PS4's thunder, save the end of Japan, or the world.  Especially not a machine that is rumored to be only as powerful as the XBO, which has been outsold 2:1 by the PS4, so far.  It's time to face it, Nintendo just can't compete with the big boys in the home console space.  They got lucky that the casuals came in in droves last gen, but that's not happening, again.  Which really makes it strange that they still seem to keep aiming at them in terms of power and features.

And the real death knell of the NX?  The PS5, which will most likely launch in 2018 or 2019.  How is a console on par with the XBO going to compete with a ~$399 console that is 4x-5x as powerful as the PS4?  That will most likely be B/C with the PS4?  It hasn't a prayer, regardless of what controller it uses.  I'm sure the Nintendo fans will eat it up, but given the Wii U's sales, there aren't that many left.

Then what does that mean for the 3DS owners? Aren't a majority of them Nintendo fans? That's like saying the Vita shows who are the hardcore Sony fans.

The handheld and home console markets are completely different.  Gamers who are mainly handheld gamers are usually casual gamers.  They don't want to spend that much on a gaming console, and don't mind "gimmicks" in HW or SW.  Of course, thanks to smartphones and tablets, that market is steadily shrinking.  Last gen there was room for two successful handhelds, this gen only one.  And the recent poor sales of the 3DS (it will be Nintendo's lowest selling handheld to date) also illustrates this.  The NX seems to be Nintendo's last stand in the console business, as rumors suggest they are combining the two markets in hope of some success.  The problem is they are combining a shrinking market with one they have not performed well in since Sony took over the top spot.  They just don't seem to understand, or make their consoles for, the core market.  They got lucky with the Wii.

As far as Sony fans go, it is undeniable that there are more and they are more dedicated.  Sony survived something last gen that would have killed any other gaming company.  Launching $200 more than their nearest competitor, powerwise.  Their online network wasn't up to snuff, especially compared to XBL.  Multiplats were poorly ported for the 1st year or so.  And the 1st party SW was lacking for the 1st year or so, as well.  Sony fans are also mostly core gamers and prefer console gaming over handheld gaming, which is why their home consoles perform much better than their handhelds.