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Miyamotoo on 17 March 2016
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Wyrdness said:
Miyamotoo said:

Again, fact is that 3D Mario like launch title is much more stronger title and definitely will move more consoles than LM.

You said itself one of reasons why 3DS had problems at beginning is weak launch lineup, so fact is weak lineup was problem even for 3DS.

No, Wii U didnt had exactly same problems like 3DS, 3DS didnt had such terrible unveiling, name, marketing like Wii U and people didnt thought that 3DS is some sort of addon for DS. Like I wrote, 3DS had only 3 real problems, time of launch, weak launch titles and high price, after Nintendo lowered price and release stronger titles Nintendo managed to save 3DS. Wii U had much more problems than 3DS and basically nothing could save it, weak launch and 1st year games is one of those problems.

Also, you totaly ignoring fact that I wrote several times, that NX will arrive in middle of generation with huge popularity of PS4 and now with PS VR launch, so NX needs to arrive with huge bang on market, they need to launch platform with huge and must have games in order to bring huge attention to NX and despite PS4/VR/X1 people start saying "look that new Nintendo platform with those great games" no one said something like that for Wii U, they espacily need that after huge Wii U faile.

 

We going a circle, you think that LM would be better choice like launch title instead of 3D Mario and that NX does not need very strong launch lineup, I think quite opposite, so I don't see point continuing with this.

You're arguing that they have to launch with 3D Mario in order to have an impact when the fact is it's not the launch that's the main issue and 3DS shows you that. You must be dreaming or have a short memory if you think 3DS only had 3 problems as for a start many consumers thought 3DS was just a DS sku that had a 3D screen because of the name, 3DS had the same problems only Nintendo actually made an effort to save it.

I'm not ignoring the time of launch you're ignoring the fundamental problem of Nintendo's platforms which has always been the long haul, a big bang means nothing if it fizzles out with in months this is why they can't fire their cards all at once and need a balanced long term approach, LM and Zelda would be a good balance with one of the most anticipated titles launching with a notable title show casing the platform. 360 arrived in the middle of a gen during a popular PS2 and did fine and funny enough the 360's launch offering was average at best it's what came after that drove it and that's what I'm pointing out to you that it's no longer about just launch. 

I already said several times Wii U had weak launch and 1st year lineup, so I agree that big bang doesnt means much without strong whole 1st year. You assuming that Zelda and 3D Mario are all cards they have and they will not have nothing after that, I assuming they will have good games to release after launch regardless Zelda and 3D Mario, I expecting great launch and 1st year lineup. 

Xbox 360 arrived at end of one and at beginning of another generation, same like Wii U, not in middle of generation. NX will come in middle generation, exactly 3 years after PS4/X1 launch, in time of those consoles life when they are basically strongest.