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Wyrdness said:
Miyamotoo said:

Super Mario 3D World sold 4.6m on 31. December on instal base of 12.5m, Luigi's Mansion on 31. December sold 4.75m on instal base of 58m. We talking about launch of new console not about any other date in life of console, Nintendo console needs strong launch titles, especially after Wii U faile.

Wii had Wii Sports and Zelda TP, there is no chance that Nintendo will have something popular like Wii Sports again, so best they can do is to have new 3D Mario and Zelda U, those two game are very strong launch titles.

New 3D Mario in any case is much better launch title (actually one of best for Nintendo platform) than Luigi's Mansion, like I wrote hype, sales and mass apeling of 3D Mario and Luigi's Mansion can't be compared, 3D Mario is one of biggest Nintendo IPs, Luigi Mansion is niche IP in comparison. New 3D Mario or Pikmin 4 can also show what system can do.

Wii Sports only became notable once the Wii took off before launch no one and I mean no one touted it as a strong launch title, the launch window was driven by TP early on then the Wii's marketing did the rest, Zelda is in fact a better launch title for today's market as seen with the Wii while Mario has shown to be a better holiday title now days, Zelda U with LM3 is a good balance going by what the rumor is saying.

Userbase size as we've seen in other threads has little bearing on first party titles selling as both PS4 and X1 have outsold the Wii U yet the latter's first party has outsold most games on the former, someone earlier mentioned that LM2 gave the 3DS a 30% spike in sales on arrival, that's more than what 3DW did for the U. Wii U failed because of how Nintendo handled it overall, I'll tell you straight Zelda and Mario will never launch at the same time because of the cannabalization of tier 1 IPs, Nintendo would rather release them in different windows to maximize sales from each of them and Mario will not launch with LM because they're from the same central IP, LM becoming a strong IP can however launch with Zelda as they're different IPs and tiers.

Wii Sports was incredibly strong launch title, we know huge number of Wii owners were casuals, those casuals both Wii on first place because of Wii Sports, so we can say Wii Sports brought casuals to Wii and Zelda TP brought core gamers. Mario 3D game is far better launch title in any case than LM3, and with Zelda U would make perfect combination.

Thing is that 3DS and Wii U are both Nintendo platforms, PS4 and X1 are not, and you cant ignore fact that 3DS has almost 5x bigger user base than Wii U. If you want to compare sales of Luigi Mansion and 3D Mario game on same platform, you have GC where worst 3D Mario game sold twice better than Luigi's Mansion, or 3DS where Mario 3D Land sold 2.5x better than Dark Moon.

Nintendo needs to convince people to buy their new platform after Wii U, one of reasons they need is great launch titles, 3D Mario and Zelda would be huge. 3D Mario and Zelda on launch can't cannibalize each other sales because they are totally different games, one is very popular platformer with mass appealing and another is adventure game for core game, also we talking about launch of console and people are buying more games on launch.