Pemalite said:
ohmylanta1003 said:
It'd be super cool if you could link me something that showed that type of motor, because I can't find anything. And regardless of the capabilities of the motor, it would be impractical to have them in a controller.
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There are a few whitepapers around. Nintendo would have it's own R&D to work on such a thing.
I wasn't able to find the information I was reading when I first heard this rumor. But this should hopefully wet your apetite: https://www.apexmagnets.com/news-how-tos/new-type-of-magnet-has-potential-to-transform-electronics/ http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022460X07002581
I'm holding some reservation like yourself, should be interesting to see how things turn out.
It's really not. Let's use your "math".
If the Wii U is twice as fast as the Xbox 360... And the Xbox One is only twice as fast as the Wii U... Then the Xbox One is only 4x faster than an Xbox 360. Just let that sink in for a moment. Please.
Now look at the games, there is a stark contrast in the graphics of the Xbox One and the Xbox 360/Wii U. No contest. - One that lends credence to it being a gap larger than 2x or 4x. Proof is in the games.
The Wii U can have less "GFLOPS" than the Xbox 360, yet still offer more performance. It can have less bandwidth, but still pull ahead, the Xbox One is the same case again.
Akeos said:
Pemalite,
ZEN will be the best solution, but it going to be too expansive, HBM mémory is 16 go min. And need Other memory for CPU part...
If NX use ZEN and Polaris, it will be 2 times more powerfull than a PS4... But price will be 599$...
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Zen won't be expensive/expansive.
You don't put a full-featured Desktop CPU into a console, you just don't, console's do not have the cooling capacity nor power delivery, heck they can't even afford to do it. A low-end Quad-Core Zen would be more than adequate, maybe even a high-clocked Dual-Core. (A Dual-Core Intel chip can be faster than all 8-cores in the Xbox One/Playstation 4.) Zen will fill AMD's entire product stack from cheap tablets right up to 16-core servers, it will also be the Architecture which will replace Carizzo and the other APU's.
HBM? Why? HBM is useless in a console, you are only gaming at a last-century 1080P. Nor would a console employ such an expensive memory system, you aren't paying $1000 for your hardware. Let's say the NX had 150Gb/s of GDDR5X (Or plain ole' GDDR5) bandwidth... It will make better use of that than the PS4 which has 176Gb/s of bandwidth. Why? Compression. Or more specifically Colour compression. - It's amazing how newer GPU's tend to have newer technologies to drive up efficiency, so the NX doesn't need more raw bandwidth (And thus more expensive memory chips) to beat the PS4.
Polaris will likely be a good deal faster than only 2x than the PS4, in the high-end at-least. Fury X is already 3-4x faster... At 1080P. - But it doesn't really show it's true muscle untill you start gaming at 1440P or 4k, then it is in a league of it's own. Polaris at the mid range could actually meet where R9 290/390 is right now in all regards except bandwidth, with superior energy characteristics, 14nm is showing some great promises that AMD and nVidia have been vocal about.
Volterra_90 said: I think it's important to make a "powerful" console (similar to PS4/One in specs) but cheaper. If they can manage to do that, and bring third parties back, and an innovative concept, with Nintendo's stellar first party line-up... It could manage to do very well. |
Price is probably going to be a big factor, Nintendo usually tends to market itself to the younger/casual market, which are typically more price sensative. I would be very surprised if the machine was priced higher than the Next-gen twins.
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