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KLAMarine said:
the-pi-guy said:

Basically you'd be happy to be locked up if it meant there was no suffering, hunger, etc?  

You'd be happy to be a computer?  

No dreams, no hopes, no suffering, no ills.  

Yes! Remember: "world hunger, slavery, human suffering, and the ills of the world" would be gone. My free will would be gone and I'd be happy. Everyone would be happy.

I'm about to play the devil's advocate here hehehehehe:

Without free will you'd have no way of knowing if those criteria were actually met. You'd be happy out of ignorant bliss, much like a man who lives as a hermit in a hut on the moon his entire life has no knowledge of any of the world's evils - but at the same time, has no knowledge of the world's good. This is the paradox of being self aware and holding the knowledge of the world's evils and goods - a dichotomy which Genesis speaks of. Adam and Eve lived in blissful ignorance until they ate from the tree of knowledge. They had no knowledge of the suffering of the world and thus these evils did not exist - until they made a conscious effort to be knowledgeable of them. God would rather have them live in ignorance and so he forbade the act of eating the fruit, and subsequently threw them out of Eden.

Was it not the way of the Medieval Roman Catholic Church which so heavily restrained any scientific advancement and pushed their own viewpoints on the matter? I'd say they were the epitome of free will violation. 

Once again, I'm just playing the devil's advocate and providing an interpretation of the arguments made. The viewpoints shared may or may not be what I personally believe. Don't hate me



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