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See my post above. 250-300 for hardware only is logical, yes. But your forgetting all the other costs (development (OS), Services, Marketing costs, Guarantee costs (if every 10th console gets broken and nintendo needs to replace them for free, you can split that costs as a +10% for each console), transport and storage, taxes) Also Sony is okay with selling the ps4 at hardware costs, i doubt nintendo will. Soney earns money not with the console, but with the 20% they get from every sold game. Thats a good option with third party support, i doubt nintendo want to rely on third party again (after all companies ignored the wii u).
- Sure but sony throws 100mio+ $ each 6 month in the ps4 marketing, nintendo atm just 30-40 mio for the whole year on the wii u. I dont know if they wanna put that money into marketing but they need to.
Well see, im a fan of nintendos games (i even own a wii u). I personally dont care to much about zelda beeing on nx or wii u because i can play it at least on wii u anyway. Im just fearing that, if this is their main strategy, wont work. Zelda is cool, its probl one of my most expected games this year. But I doubt it will work. Not many people will buy an NX to play Zelda Wii U or all the games the wiiu got as well (3d mario, even mario kart, smash, splatoon). It already didnt worked with the wii u. Look at Ps4´s lineup for just THIS year: Uncharted 4, Ratchet and Clank, No Mans Sky, Fifa 17 + other anual sportgames, Final Fantasy 15, The Last Guardian, Horizon Zero Dawn, Dark Soulds III, The Devision, Kingdoms Come Deliverance, Street Fighter 5, Mirrors Edge Catalyst, Mass Effect Andromeda, Doom, Plants vs Zombies GW2, New Call of Duty, Deus Ex Manking Divided, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Hitman, Overwatch, Dishonored 2, For Honor, Unravel, Tekken 7, Detroid, Gran Turismo Sport, Mafia III, Deep Down, Ghost recon: Wildlands, Rise of the Tomb Raider + some rereleases/remastereds: Resident Evil 4,5,6; Heavy Rain; Beyoned 2 souls, maybe bioshock 1,2,3 + Dlcs for Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Battlefront to keep those games fresh.
And now please tell me how Nintendo NX should compete against this. Its just doesnt matter if Zelda U is on NX or isnt. Thats not Nintendos problem. A game like Final Fantasy 15 is at least as hyped as Zelda U and their is so much more coming to ps4. No way Nintendo can compete. They NEED third party support. And even with 3rd party support it will get extremly hard. Look at Xbox One vs Ps4. the XBox will get most of that games as well, still didnt sell very well. In most europe country the xbox one just sell as good as the wii u. The only reason the xbox is WW still "okay" is UK and America, where the brand is still very popular. In germany we have like 70% ps4 and 15% Wii Us, 15% Xbox Ones. The Playstation just have the best imagine. Nintendo image is at least in terms of mature third party games very bad. I really cant see them fixing this. |
I already saw and I already answered to you, R&D costs, marketing costs and services...dont affect on sale price of product, actually only thing that affect on sale product is cost of hardware itself.
There is no really need to throw money on already dead platform, but on launch of totally new platform they need to through ton of money on marketing.
I already wrote you several times why it wouldn't work with Wii U, its wasnt just one problem, it was several big problems. So its not only about Zelda U, but Zelda U will definitely help.
Again, NX will be in some way diffrent than, PS4/X1 also you have great Nintendo games that you dont have on other platforms.Why PS4 is selling so much better than X1!? First on sales of X1 had effect initial plans of MS with DRM and always online, than X1 was launched with $100 higher price point than PS4, than people realise that same games works and looks better on PS4. Also PS4/X1 are bouth on first place platforms for multiplatform games, people buy them on first place for multi platform games, and PS4 ended from obvious reasons like best multiplatform console.
Regardless Nintendo, they have strongest IPs, but like I wrote, if they want bigger mass appealing they need 3rd party. Nobody will buy NX in first place to play just Fifa, Need For Speed or CoD, for something like that they will buy PS4, but you can bet there are plenty people who would like to play 3D Mario and Fifa, or 3D Zelda and CoD, Smash and Need For Speed, people who would gladly play Nintendo games but they also want some 3rd party games, they dont want to pay for console that has only Nintendo games.
