J.J. Abrams: "I'd Welcome Gay Characters In STAR WARS"

[Jon-Erich]

Cobretti2 said:

Torillian said:

I am not a cinema historian by any means, but I would assume that when black characters were first being written into shows that they had similar problems of being poorly written in.  It's only with time and many years of black characters becoming more normal that they began to be better written.  The writing community in general needs experience with these things in order to make them work.  If we say "well you shouldn't write in gay characters until you write them well" then I don't know how we will ever get to that point.  

I don't know about that. I think writters back then were more creative too because they didn't have so many special effect to rely on, so words were used to express the story more.

Look at any black oriented character movie from say the 1960s to early 1990s. Most of them in my opinion tell a better story then modern movies. Not once did it feel like a tocken black person was put in it.  Compare that to catwoman 2004, which was clear hollywood wanted to have a black woman play the character in that instence. Everything about that movie just sucked.

I think that is true. Not to mention there wasn't an alterior agenda back then. I'll use Rocky as an example. Rocky had Carl Weathers playing Apollo Creed but it wasn't because they wanted a black guy. His personally and the ability to play that persona brought that character to life. Now, had Rocky never existed and the first Rocky movie was being made today, there would be an outcry if a young white guy was playing a down on his luck poor guy from Philly who's suddenly given a chance at fame and glory. There would be all sorts of protests if the black guy was playing as Apollo Creed and Apollo Creed wouldn't be this charming guy with a senese of humor. He would be a straight up asshole and a real bad guy since we can't have sophistication in our writing anymore.