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Miyamotoo said:
OneKartVita said:

The point is if you can get all those on the one platform why would Nintendo fans buy both?  I'd say about 10m Wii U owners by the end of the gen will also own 3DS. Why would they spend a fortune buying both.  If they put all games on both straight away you're losing sales.  On top of that people are moving away from dedicated handhelds to smartphones so there will be a lot more lost sales.  

 

Bottom line is they won't succeed without 3Rd party support.  Because Nintendo on their own will not grow gen over gen.  They will decrease and their profits from consoles won't increase. 

First you assuming that almost every Wii U owner has 3DS also, thats not true because handheld and console gaming are not same, they are very different, so even with same games (but definitely some will be some exclusives) some people will still buy both devices, especially if home console and handheld have heavy integration. Also you talking only about Nintendo fans, but what about people that are not Nintendo fans but with unified platform they consider Nintendo handheld or home console much more attractive than before because they have much higher number of games on single device.

Yes, for bigger mass appealing NX needs 3rd party support.

The problem is the dedicated handheld market is dead outside of Japan.  It doesn't have a long and positive future.  Kids want an iPhone or a tablet nowadays instead.  And out of the roughly 15m that bought the Wii U I'd bet at least 10m have the 3DS.