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Volterra_90 said:
bananaking21 said:

by not doing that they have lost a massive demographic to Sony and MS. one that is very very hard to get back now. because those CoD, madden and Fifa gamers, those more "casual" crowd, already have their console of choice. and games like mario and zelda wont draw any of them to Nintendo.

 

if nintendo goes on and spends big bucks on marketing, it wont make much of a difference, if any, at least at first. but with not doing anything they lost 100% of that demographic, so they gotta start now and try get some of it, even if it wont be worth it in the short term. basically nintendo put them selfs in this position by not working with third party publishers in the past, and not catering to this certain demographic, which now proves to be vital for success. 

The problem is that EA Sports games were never a big selling point in any Nintendo console ever. I agree that the general lose of third party publishers is part of the problem, but I'm talking about sports games in here. People who play those games have already make their choice looong time ago, so how do you convince those people to jump on the NX? That's hard business. It needs big thinking, and massive amounts of money spend in marketing. And Nintendo obviously doesn't have the same marketing power as Sony and MS, which will always win in that aspect. I think they can take the risk and see what happens and do a long term strategy to slowly adquire that demography back. But it's not that easy. I mean, it would be great that we could enjoy all the third party games on a Nintendo console, but is it worth it from a business POV? Is it possible to regain that demography back now? 

You are looking at it from the wrong perspective. as much as I prefer 2K Sports games over EA Sports games, FIFA and MADDEN is only made by them.

This is what the goal should be.

Bring back those Nintendo gamers who love 3rd party games but can't afford two consoles. Soo they get the 3rd party one as a couple first party games alone is not enough to win them. NOTE this will be a very small percentage like you say.

However the main goal of this exercise is to hook the kids before they gorw into teens and go "were are the sports games?" and then transition to the next console. 

Nintendo's rebuild of audience will be slow. They need to create enough variety so that the current kids who become adults stick with them instead of jump ship.

The window of opportunity will also be small, because each generation that the issue isn't fixed, the current kids that start to have kids in the future will not buy Nintendo for their kids  because they grew up on XBOX and SONY.

I am excluding the CASUAL MARKET as they are not reliable and will most liley stick to touch screen tablets and smart phones.