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Thunderbird77 said:
Miyamotoo said:

It not about EA only, third party games are always selling worst on Nintendo platforms because people buy Nintendo platforms for Nintendo games on first place. But without 3rd party games Nintendo platforms cant have mass appealing, because there are people who dont want only Nintendo games if the buy Nintendo platform.

If they games are selling bad, they definitely didn't lose tons of money. Why do you think EA won't support Wii U or 3DS, they will definitely support them if the think they can make tons of money on WiiU and 3DS.

When we talk about need for EA support for Nintendo, isn't about money Nintendo will make from EA games, its about that with EA games and third party support Nintendo platform will be much more desirable platform than with Nintendo games alone, that means more sold Nintendo platforms and Nintendo games.

First, Wii had much better third party suport than Wii U, second Wii was casual platform for players from 5-99 years old, its unrealistic to expect that Nintendo will do something similar again. Wii U proved they can't support platform that doesn't have very strong gimmick alone.

Yet again wrong, it's called reaping what you sow. Third parties sell worse when they don't try. When they do try, they get better sales on nintendo platforms. When they do crappy decisions on ps and xbox, they also get poor sales there, No magic involved.

You can talk about third party support or EA, one doesn't equal the other. Also, it's safer to say sony and ms NEED third parties or else they'd crash, nintendo has been profiting without them for a while. Theyr support helps a console's success but isn't absolutely necessary for staying in the market.

Wii didn't really have much better 3rd party support than anything and calling it casual just screams for me to ignore the statement.

Wii U proved many things but not the ones you talk about.

Did you actually read what I wrote!? No there is no magic involved, people buy Nintendo platforms for Nintendo games on first place, and people buy PS/Xbox platforms for 3rd part games on first place, that is a fact. Just look PS4/XboxOne and best selling games for those platforms, or for PS3/Xbox360 platforms. So thats why 3rd party games are always sell poor on Nintendo platforms.

Like I wrote, EA is single most important third party developer. Yes, MS/Sony needs more third party than Nintendo, but that doesnt mean Nintendo dont need them. Nintendo is profitable, but do you think Nintendo is satisfied with profit they making this gen and sales of Wii U!? Third parties this gen become more important than ever before, if Nintendo wants more successful platform they need 3rd party, without 3rd party Nintendo can expect sales around 20-30m, because majority of people will not buy console that has only Nintendo games.

Wii had much better support than Wii U, for instance Wii had 9 Fifa games and 6 Pro Evolution games, that 15 soccer games, Wii U have just one, Fifa 2013. Majority of Wii owners were casuals, that is a fact.

 

Bottom of line, like I wrote, Nintendo need EA more than than EA need Nintendo. EA is first developer that abandoned Wii U, why they done that if they really need Nintendo!? Also why Nintendo wants partnership with EA if they really don't need them!?

You can bet that Nintendo will make some kind of agreement with EA even if it seems EA has some high demands. Why!? Because Nintendo needs 3rd party if they want successful platform.