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BenKenobi88 said:
I don't like the hardcore/casual labels.

What I prefer is traditional or not, or perhaps just judge games on how difficult they are for new players.

The problem with Traditional or nontraditional is that the "casual" games of today are actually more traditional then the "hardcore" games of today when you look back at the earlier videogame systems.

And a lot of 13 year olds would complain for no reason if suddenly the games they played were the "non traditional" ones.