| Rpruett said:
Your question is mostly non-sense and very easy to split out into points. You say in conjunction to the wall, there are a number of other things you have to take into consideration. You then list them as follows : - Inevitability of Mexicans reaching USA So you're saying essentially that the USA will be incapable of preventing people from getting into the country? Is there something unique to all of the other countries who have widely successful statistics regarding prevention of illegal immigration that you're aware of? All evidence points to the fact that a properly designed wall works incredibly well. Which is the evidence you've been linked and provided. You seem to be misunderstanding what I've been saying. Cherry-picked data is not proof of concept. Walls are not widely known to be effective as deterrents for immigration. At the very least, not on its own. You cannot say what works in one country or two, with totally different environments and situations, will work here. The most you can do is say, "they can work." - Too great a distance to build the wall The entire US border does not need a wall. This has been discussed ad nauseam and once you identify the segments of the border that do need a wall, it's not much different distance-wise than walls many other countries have built. Another point that I did not specifically state, but even with the claims that you don't need to build a wall all the way across the border, the wall is still large. - The wall requires surveiliance How does this differ from the current border today? How it differs is that if you are committing to a wall to keep people out, you really will have to commit to devoting resources to people not circumventing it either, which is not that hard to do with today's technology. If you want to claim we're already doing that, then what would be the point of the wall? - Can't make Mexico pay, no way to strike a deal with them This has also been discussed ad nauseam. Mexico absolutely will pay for the wall. The United States currently has a 58 billion dollar trade deficit with Mexico per year. That's an easily negotioable stance for the United States. I don't think you really understand how this works if you think that. $58b trade deficit doesn't mean we're giving away $58b. If you can't understand that, then you don't have any right to be arguing it. - Wall is stupid when you combine his positions (on cutting taxes, bombing ISIS, deporting, keeping 3 biggest items on federal budget. None of these are mutually exclusive events. He can cut taxes, protect the border, bomb isis, deport illegal immigrants all at the same time. (And commonly this is what every president does). As for the (3) biggest items on the federal budget, what are you referencing? What you don't realize about Trump's policies is that he makes some pretty big claims. He wants to cut income taxes across the board, and not by a few percent, but by a very large amount. From nearly 40% to 25% on the top bracket, and to 0% on most of the lower-middle class. He also wants to lower taxes on corporations on top of this. He says to do all this, while he still is saying to keep Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid around. This, plus his plans on bombing ISIS and these other "tough" actions he wants to take means keeping the Defense budget up, which those 3 make up the 3 most expensive items on the federal budget. You can look it up and see for yourself. |
So, no, what I'm saying is not non-sense at all. Many of the things you said I said were not what I said.
