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Scisca said:
Groundking said:

France's per electricity costs are actually a fair bit lower than the OECD average. France is a great exaple about why we need to stop building oil and coal powerstations, you get cleaner energy and energy that isn't really any more expensive.

Yeah, but that doesn't include the costs of setting up these nuclear powerplants, does it? This opinion and European policy ignores the fact, that different countries have different possibilities. In the case of Poland, we have 85% of Europe's black coal:

We have huge brown coal resources as well. So why the heck would we want to invest in nuclear, solar or wind energy? Why would we stop using cheap coal? No reason, so we are being forced, mainly by Germany, to purchase these stupid windmills (despite not having sufficient winds to make them effective) and wasting money on their other "green" technologies.

It's nothing more, but the stronger and richer keeping the weaker one in a chokehold and forcing him to hand over his money.

No, but France built thier Nuclear Power plants when regulations were much much lower (they are currently grossly and unnecessarily high and far to many, the main cost of building the damn things are regulation followed by the 3m thick containment shell they need to have, which IIRC can only currently be produced by one company in japan, and again this is for the old crappy nuclear power stations, almost all of the 3rd, 4th and 5th gen stations have different desings that either reduce this, or get rid of this entirely, I particularily like those that use the current spent fuel as their primary source of fuel, and those that use thorium in a LFTR design) and such the cost of production was much lower, and if you're going to play that game, then coal, gas and oil powered power stations also cost a fair deal, and the cost of solar and wind is simply disgusting. Also for 70-80 years of use 3 or 4 billion spent on a reactor that's going to provide such monstrous ammounts of energy is not a lot of money, it's just a lot upfront.

And of course Poland should still be using it's natural resources, it'd be stupid if it didn't, as at the end of the day, whichever way to cut it, economically Poland (no offence) is at least 2 or 3 decades behind being on the same general level of the Germany/France/UK/Holland of a GDP per capita of 40-50k, but that doesn't mean that for the US, UK, Germany, Holland, Japan. Australia, South Korea, Italy etc, that it's not a good idea to switch over to nuclear, I mean FFS is should have happened by now, but the anti-technology, anti-human, anti-progress moronic fuckers that make up the green movement cried foul about an industry where they don't even understand the basics, and vehemently fought to have plants shut down and to get the governments to stop investing in the technology. Investment in Nuclear power is pathetic compared to pretty much every other form of power generation, other than Hydro, but that's for different reasons.