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PotentHerbs on 16 February 2016
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PAOerfulone said:

You neglect to mention how LeBron has spent his entire career in an absolutely pathetic Eastern Conference while having his team stacked and absolutely zero contenders outside of whatever team LeBron plays for as opposed to how Kobe had to scratch, claw, and fight his way through a jam-packed Western Conference throughout his 20 year career which included, the Spurs, the Mavericks, the Kings, the Trailblazers, the Suns, the Thunder, why do you think Kobe is 5-2 in the Finals and LeBron is 2-4. Because by the time they both got to the Finals, Kobe was already battle tested, experienced, won the toughets fights, and took down the toughest opponents he was going to face, whereas LeBron had it so easy up until the Finals where he goes up against a REAL contender out West, and his team either doesn't stack up (Warriors and Spurs), or are just mentally unprepared and unready (Mavericks).
Or how about how from 11-14 he had his team stacked with a Prime Wade, Prime Bosh, and the 2nd greatest shooter of all-time, Ray Allen, whereas Kobe from was all by himself in from 2006 to 2008 until he got Pau Gasol and they won back to back titles from there. 
You wanna know how LeBron scores?
Put his head down, drive to the rim, muscle his way to a lay-up and an And-One. And it's pretty damn easy for him to do that when he's surrounding by deadly and lethal shooters who can knock down open jumpers in their sleep. The situation LeBron was in while at Miami was perfect for him, that's why he was able to do what he did, but now look at him. He has no jumpshot beyond 15 feet, and his declining athletism is going to show just how one-dimensional he is as a scorer. Kobe can drive, post up, spot up, catch & shoot, shoot off the dribble, he was arguably just as versatile of a scorer as Curry is right now. 
Let's put it like this:
A broken down, plagued by injuries, 37 year old, about to retire Kobe Bryant is shooting a higher percentage from 3 Point Range this season, than a 31 year old, still in his prime, still in top shape LeBron James.

Did you watch LeBron's first 7 years? He played with scrubs his first go around with Cleveland. The lack of parity in the Eastern Conference was balanced with LeBron's lack of help at least in his first 7 years. Not to mention the Eastern Conference wields the best defenses, Kobe will throw up bricks against the Pistons/ Celtics defense as shown by history. Put prime Kobe on the Cavaliers from 03' - 10' & he doesn't get to the Finals once. Kobe always had the superior supporting casts compared to LeBron, ring counting doesn't take that into account. 

05' - 10' Lamar Odom >> anyone from the 03' - 10' Cavaliers excluding LeBron. 

LeBron played one year with 'prime' Wade in 2011. But.. 

00' - 04' Shaq >>> 11- 14' Wade + Bosh. 

I can show you the numbers if you like. 

Dwight, Nash, Payton, Artest/ World Peace, Malone, Jones, Bynum > Irving, Allen and Love. Kobe can't even mesh his play style with Steve Nash lol, LeBron adjusted to both Irving and Wade.

You don't think the triangle offense benefited Kobe? 

Phil >> Blatt, Brown, Spo, Lue. 

You don't think post players cater to Kobe's skill set? 

I'd take a LeBron layup over a Kobe jumpshot, skill has no part in the equation if the former is more effective regardless. Besides I think LeBron ends up having a better post game as he ages. 

Can't take physicality out of the equation when determining who is the better player.