Kobe or Lebron?

[Cirio]

Chris Hu said:

Cirio said:

Yeah Michael Jordan isn't a winner either because the titles he won are mostly due to his supporting cast and great coaching. 

Same could be said about LeBron.

And Magic.

And everyone else.

Even if think that Kobe is a winner the first three rings are Shaq's.  Jordan was the key player in all the Bulls titles.

That's irrelevant. Jordan couldn't win any championships without Pippen and Jackson. Kobe couldn't win any championships without Shaq/Gasol and Jackson. Using the "hurr durr those were Shaq's rings" is such a stupid argument. Oh btw, Shaq couldn't win any of his championships without Kobe or DWade either.