Antonin Scalia dead at 79.

[Azuren]

JWeinCom said:

Azuren said:

 

Except all this is is another tax. And let's keep in mind that too many taxes are the reason we deal in dollars, not pounds.

Uhhhhh... and that has to do with the constitution how?  Article 1 section 8 of the constitution specifically gives congress the ability to levy taxes for common defense and general welfare.  Healthcare certainly falls under general welfare.  So, I fail to see how this is unconstitutional in any way.

Oh, it's just a counter to the whole "We pay taxes, we can be drafted, the government can do blah blah blah" position. The fact is this isn't something for the safety of others, or for the continued existence of our country (both in finance and defense). This is something that sat everyone down and said "Oh, that thing that you've been fighting for to have for free? Oh, you'll get it! Don't worry! Did you say free? We heard expensive. Whoops!"

Obamacare is nothing but an insurance drafted joke. It's a convoluted system that gives insurance companies even more power than they had at the cost of being able to turn people away. Oh, sure, they can't deny you because of medical issues. But they can charge extra because of it. Oh, can't afford it? Well here's your Obamacare- oh wait, do you make any amount of money whatsoever?. Sorry, the private healthcare was cheaper.

My mother can't afford healthcare anymore because my dad makes too much to get a good rate, but not enough to afford a bad one. And the healthcare that she had? Well, apparently they were allowed to raise their rates on my mom. So either my mom's health degrades to the point of death, or they declare bankruptcy. Obamacare isliterally killing my family. So no, it doesn't work. Honestly, the "You have to have healthcare cause it's the law" is only the tip of the iceberg on how much absolute BULLSHIT the entire bill is. It didn't help us. It took a shitty situation and shit all over it by making absolutely sure that every American was a customer, whether they want it or not. All because those things that masquerade as humans at the top of those insurance companies wanted more benjamens to line their pockets. And on a more personal level, I have absolutely zero respect for anyone who thinks that Obamacare works or is a good idea. Maybe in the beginning, sure. When it really was free healthcare.

But not this. So yeah, I hope they put someone in there who will start overturning this giant, unpolished piece of horse refuse.

 

Added: All that said, I'm withdrawing from this conversation. I don't believe I can have any form of level-headed discussion on this topic.