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spemanig said:
Kai_Mao said:

From what I've played (very few), Zero Mission was great. Probably my favorite. I don't know what kind of beef some have with Zero Suit, but I thought it was a cool addition to the original game. Her short segment in the game had a different kind of play style of survival, which made me nervous every time I made a move. She's still Samus, just Zero Suit. No problem having a strong women who looks beautiful. If we didn't have a problem when Samus was originally revealed as a women..in 8 bit bikini, why have a problem when she's just...Zero Suit? Plus, the game itself as a whole improved upon what the original game built upon.

I've only completed Zero Mission and Fusion, but hope to complete more.

People have "beef" with the Zero Suit because it destroyed the most powerful part of her character. There's nothing wrong with the the suit in theory. The problem is that there was once a time when saying the name Samus made you imagine a Boba Fett/Iron Man-like image for a character. Now most people imagine a blonde bimbo in blue spandex. That's not what Samus is about. The suit is poorly designed, but that's not the issue. The focus the Zero Suit gets, both narratively and culturally, is the issue, especially when the suit is explicitely designed to objectify her.

Samus was always beautiful. No one ever had an issue with Samus being beautiful, but this is Samus Aran, not Lara Croft. The crux of her character isn't supposed to be defined by how sexy she's dressed. She was also never meant to look like an animu teenage cheerleader, but that's for another discussion. No one had a problem with bikini Samus because that was an easter egg. Zero Suit Samus is getting entire cutscenes dedicated to her now. She looks like a bimbo in heels now, and that negatively contrasts with the image she's had before that, that of a stoic bounty hunter. It's like taking off master cheif's helmet, making him look like Nick Jonas, dressing him in some objectifying outfit while pretending there's an innocent reason for that design choice, and then pushing this image of MC for 10 year, undermining all the visual characterization done to that point. That's the "beef."

I get your points, but I just don't see it that way. With playing some of her games, reading the manga, and getting a feel of who she is, Zero Suit is not a problem in n my books. She's still remembered as she is in suit. But like Iron Man, who you mentioned, it's interesting to see the person out of the suit. Tony Stark was an interesting character who may act self-centered, but has a need to protect those he cares about, even if it causes more problems. How bout Bruce Wayne?

I remembered seeing one particular scene of her being a child and remembering her ultimate journey into saving the galaxy after seeing the tragedy of her parents in front of her very eyes. I think having Zero Suit adds to her character as not just a bounty hunter who will stop at nothing to defeat evil. Maybe the manga influenced me more than you, but to see Samus show her more human side is pretty nice. Of course people will objectify her as Zero Suit, it just comes with the current territory. And for her outfit design, it works with how her universe is, or how some futuristic universes work. The heels I personally don't think about too much since it's just there (unless you're talking about the jet boots then you can watch a video from Gaijin Goombah who mentions how those jet boots can actually work).

But we can agree to disagree.