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Cubedramirez said:
Soundwave said:
Cubedramirez said:
SpokenTruth said:
Cubedramirez said:
I say yes. Let's see how someone who has to make their living outside of government takes a crack at running the country. Can't do any worse than the last two we've had.

Actually, he can do worse.  A lot worse.



Considering how God awful these last 8 years were which I didn't think it was possible to top the previous 8 you may have a point. However I'll take that chance because it is beyond logic to continue employeeing the same people responsible for the crap we're in thinking they'll solve the problem. Anyone honestly thinking that voting someone who has spent their entire career in Washington has the answer is lying to themselves on levels unthinkable to a normal mind. 

 

What exactly is so "godawful" about the last 8 years anyway? The economy has largely recovered from the collapse in 2008. The housing market is back. By and large there's been no major terror attack, nothing even remotely close to a 9/11. There's been at least some progress in getting health care to more people that didn't have it before.

People who think China and Russia are doing so great ... go live in China or Russia as an average middle class person and then come back to me and tell me your quality of life is better. 

The main thing I'd say that's really, really awful about American society are the mass shootings and there's no easy solution to that unfortunately, but little kids shouldn't be getting gunned down going to school, that's just not normal. That and racism is still an issue in America, but that's going to be a long, ugly tread, unfortunately. I think the best that can be done is to hope that each successive generation is less racist than their parents, and I think that is happening. 

The economy actually hasn't improved for anyone making fewer than two hundred thousand a year and even the upper tier are not spending their money; not to mention the 94 million of able body working citizens who are no longer counted in the unemployment numbers. The housing market is back to grossly inflated bubble levels where nothing has any meaningful collateral backing up the asset. We've not had a 9/11 however not since Oklahoma City has there been an attack on any similar scale. And no one in America outside of the people who could already get Medicare or Medicaid has any reason whatsoever to be happy with their health plans. I used to pay less than 150 dollars a month for what the government considers platinum coverage for a family of four which very little out of pocket. Now a similar plan cost six times as much and still lacks many of the benefits my previous one had, so like millions of people who had and enjoyed their coverage we had to change doctors, hospitals and now healthcare cost as a part of my income in higher than it's ever been.

I don't care about a Russian economy that was built on a simple (oil must remain over 90 dollars a barrel to sustain our economy) or the Chinese economy built on the same flakey economic formula which is responsible for your belief the housing market has rebounded (also don't forget in little over a decade China has amassed over 16 Trillion dollars in private debt).

Gun crime in the US has been free falling for years now and as of right now in the US gun crimes are at the lowest it's ever been all while they're more guns per person than ever before. I don't allow the media to decide my opinion on the matter. Racism in America is nothing compared to the rest of the world, it's just easier to cover because negativity sells. Having seen the instructional racism in South America (Looking at you Mexico), Europe and Eastern Africa and the Middle East first hand I can say without a doubt that as a Hispanic I thank my lucky stars I don't live in any of those hell holes. Whenever I hear anyone cry about racism in America I can't help but to laugh to myself because it highlights the ignorant thinking of people who haven't set foot in more than 2 countries.

I am a little passionate about my country. And I don't care about party lines. Fact is Obama took a awful situation left by Bush and decided to make every possible wrong move possible. Not because he was different, it's because he's the exact same as Bush and that's why this country cannot afford yet another establishment candidate who does exactly the same the previous idiot did. God, I could say here all night about how entirely repugnant reducing taxes while increasing spending was during war time, spending a trillion dollars on a health care system which had ZERO ability to grow the number of insured and in fact was nothing more than expanding current federal and state health care programs, going to war in Iraq-then up and leaving before a foundation was made...

On and on how many times do these people need to screw up before people wake up?

The problem is with Congress more than any particular president. Passing meaningful healthcare reform for example is virtually impossible because Republicans will block it. 

There is no apetite from the US public to stay in Iraq forever, and that's probably literally what it would take. People always bring up Japan post WW2, but Japan is very, very different society, in fact there's no society in the world like Japan, civil obiedience and sacrifice for the nation state is paramount, therefor once the war was over it was easy to turn that into a Westernized manufacturing powerhouse. The Middle East is not like that at all. 

I mean they're been bombing in Afghanistan for almost 16 years now ... and there's still Taliban there. You can't bomb an ideology. 

Gun violence is down but honestly I don't want to have kids in the US because I worry that if I send them to school, one day some nut kid will show up with a gun and kill them. It's not even one of those wacky "it could never happen" ... it seems to happen every 3-4 months without fail these days.