Ljink96 said:
WookieSquatch said:
Ljink96 said:
RadiantDanceMachine said:
Ljink96 said:
asqarkabab said:
Mr.Playstation said:
Moses- Existed
Jesus- Existed
Abraham -Existed
They all talked about the same god and there was a period of 2000 years between Abraham and Jesus.
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how you know that moses and abraham existed ??
jesus is another case
like Muhammad and all other prophets
God exists because the world was not created automaticely
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Well, we at least know Noah existed because they found the ark a while back. It had the exact same dimensions as described in the Bible. And I guess, if those people don't exist then the Roman empire didn't exist too? You can freaking visit Jesus's tomb. There has been water found in which one group of h20 is hydrophobic of another, hinting at water that was split by Moses.
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Ugh, why do people propagate this nonsense? Please stop taking everything your religious friends tell you as gospel truth. There has been no ark found, this is not even debatable. It's yet another Ron Wyatt fraud.
http://www.snopes.com/religion/noahsark.asp
Even Answers in Genesis website tells you to stop spreading this bullshit:
https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2013/12/19/has-noahs-ark-been-found/
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Even if these non-viable sources are right, you ignore the hard hitting points I mentioned about the Roman Empire and Jesus. This stuff is documented. Jesus wasn't fake. His miracles were documented. Speaking in tongues, it's real. It's the sign of the holy spirit living within you. You think millions of people just act like they all can speak a different tongue all of a sudden?
I've witnessed a friend, who I've never even thought would be demonic, have a spirit cast out of her body and when the pastor asked the demon what its name was, it spoke through her and said "Legion". I was scared as hell that day.
There was a recorded happening in which a teenager was hit by a vehicle and pronounced dead on the scene. His brain was on the freaking street. He was taken to the morgue where his mother, with prayer and power, called him back and sure enough he woke up and told his mother that he was sorry. The doctors and nurses ran out the room, in disbelief in what they saw.
I was born with a defect in which I could not urinate. It was destroying my body. The doctors had no idea what to do, all the treatments failed. But my mother told me that one night, she had been crying about my situation and was praying that a miracle would come my way and that night, she said a figure sat down on her bed and told her that I would have a wet diaper in the morning. Sure enough, she woke up and I no longer had the complication.
When my brother was born, the doctors said he wouldn't live to see a year of age. My parents were distraught but they called a good friend of theirs to pray for him. When the friend arrived, all of the newborn babies that were crying at the hospital...just stopped when he walked in. Every single one of them. He prayed for my brother and the complication resolved shortly there after.
You can't tell me that God isn't real. There are things that not even science can prove.
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You're right, no one can tell you that god isn't real because you can't prove a negative, but that's just about the only thing you're right about. You're not bringing up any hard hitting evidence at all, it's all claptrap pushed by religious zealots with no real science behind it.
The general consensus was that moses didn't exist. There is little to no evidence that Abraham existed. The Noah story was just a rip of of The Epic of Gilgamesh, which came way before the Noah story, and no, no one has found an ark. Jesus's existence is debateable, though the consensus seems to lean towards him existing.
If you want to believe for personal reasons that's cool, and no one can take that away from you, but don't try to bring all these made up facts to the table.
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Why so heated? I'm not gonna sit here and act like an explosion created intelligent life. You ignore me again, you're increasingly ignorant. There are things that science CAN NOT prove and hasn't proven. "Jesus's existance is debatable". Are you kidding me? So, Pontius Pilate's existance is debatable too? He oversaw the crucifixion of Jesus. Who's posting facts here? Did I say...any factual sentences?
You're just cutting out the parts of my argument and pasting what you like. A complete biased tactic. How do you explain "Speaking in tongues"? Science? This tongue is what Jesus left before his departure in order to mark those who know the holy spirit. If all of my other anecdotes are false...even though doctors and scientests couldn't explain those happenings, please tell me how introns and exons, inhibitors and myofibrils, grey matter and white matter expalin this phenomenon? Please do. Or are you just going to ignore that too?
I am a believer in science. I see what it is and has done. But I know that there's things that it cannot prove because we lack the understanding and knowledge of a higher being.
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Honestly, it frustrates me when I see people throwing out blatantly false information like that noahs ark existed and we've found it.
There is actually a lot of debate on the topic of whether or not Jesus existed, though as I stated the general consensus is that he probably did. I can send you some sources if you're interested. I haven't read much about Pontius Pilate, but I'd assume being a Roman official there would be a lot more reliable records of him, but him existing doesn't prove that Jesus existed.
I didn't address speaking in tongues because I don't even think it's worth talking about. Do you have legitimate peer reviewed scientific studies that point to it being a genunine phenonmen, or just anectdotal evidence? Speaking in tongues is something that can be studied, and everything I've read points to it being nonsense.
Pretty much everythign you mentioned are just anectodotes, which is why I ignored them. If prayer is so effective why does it have such a low success rate? How come god is only willing to perform miracles in super ambiguous ways that leave so much room for doubt? Never do you see someone spontaneously regrow a limb, bullet wounds magically close, heads re-attached, etc. Why so vague? Sounds like self confirmation bias to me.
