Hiku said:
Slimebeast said:
Of course I'm a Sweden Democrat. Yes, they were somewhat racist in the past, but first and foremost they were nationalist.
What do you mean by white-washing? Because I objected towards Puppyroach's claim that "racists" also are nasty against women and children?
The 22 year old woman that was killed by the Somalian refugee, she was a Lebanese Christian I think. What does that have to do with anything?
You say "But to out right blame every none ethnic Sweden for majority of the crimes is just a pure lie.". Now you are lying, man! I didn't say anything like that. What I am saying is, is that many of the refugees that come to Sweden belong to cultures that are chauvinistic towards women and that are much more prone to violence - meaning that less provokation, frustration, or whatever triggering factor is needed for them to resort to violence, than what is needed for a Swede to commit violence. The threshhold for violence is dangerously low, and that's a problem for society. Especially for a soceity and culture that is so sensitive and defenseless as the Swedish.
About deportations, I don't get the point. Could you explain what you mean?
I disagree with your analysis on integration. The main problem is with foreigners who won't integrate. Yes, Swedish social codes are weird and hard to learn, and it's hard to become friends with Swedes because we're playing theater, but there's so many factors that compensate for this. For example, most employers are willing to give a foreigner a chance even if it's apparent that he lacks the qualifications for a job. I see it all the time.
Swedes have the mentality that it's Sweden's fault that immigrants can't integrate. So much self blame. It's ridiculous and I'm sick and tired of this debate that has lasted for at least 30 years.
Yes, like you say. Shut the border, problem solved.
I agree that it's strange that USA doesn't do more. It's a huge country with a tough, strong culture, strong self-confidence about its position, and has a determined police force. USA has shown time and time again how excellent it is to take in and assimilate foreign people. Not sure what Americans think of this, but I think the USA has capacity to receive a large part of these refugees.
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It was obvious from the way you wrote that you are a Sweden Democrat.
"Don't believe media blindly without evidence. Instead believe our propagenda blindly without evidence."
I live in this city, and I pass by the central train station every day as I commute. If there are 200 Morrocan people who basically moved in, I've never noticed. And it's not a big station.
For those who don't know, the Sweden Dermocrats are Nazi, White Power, and Keep Sweden Swedish, at the core of their foundation.
Since labeling themselves a Nazis and racists wont get them far in the political world today, they refer to themselves as national conservatives, etc.
However, behind closed doors, we've had multiple exposes with recordings of racism and Nazism within the higher up members of the party, including their party leader, Jimmy Åkeson singing along to Nazi and racist songs.
In 2012, two Sweden Democrat parliament members armed thmselves with iron pipes, and were caught on film attacking a drunken man. According to several whitnesses they had made racist and sexists comments during this time, and also shoved a bystanding woman.
Erik Almqvist, part of this assault, was later kicked from the Sweden Democrats. Which resulted in a lot of protests from their other party memembers. And some of them quit, and went to an open Swedish Nazi party called Svenskarana's parti.
Among many other examples, this is in essence the fundamental sentiments of this party. And this is why on the day the Sweden Democrats got enough votes to get into the Swedish parliament in 2010, people were literally in tears, live on national TV.
This is what the country has regressed to, and it's a scary thought for many people.
And I won't say there's no problem with immigrant's violent bahaviour in this country. But I'm not going to allign myself with a party rooted in Nazism no matter what the cause.
When you say things like "Yeah, nazi-racists have sentiment towards children", that may be true for some of them, but we've seen what happens when a Nazi party takes charge of a country. There was no sentiment towards women or children in the gas chambers. While I'm sure there were many Nazi members against it, it was too late to speak up.
These people depicted in the OP don't take action against social injustice in general. It only happens to be against immigrants, because that's their agenda. Maybe some of these guys deserved a beating. But it's very likely that innocent people got caught in the crossfire as well. There's no way to identify who is a criminal and who isn't just based on how they look and who they associate with.
I don't agree with mob justice, whether rooted in racism or not, because things can easily go even more out of control when neither side cares about the law.
And while I don't think people should take what media says without evidence for face value, they also shouldn't blindly believe the propaganda of people with an agenda, just because they happen to live in this country. They don't neccesarily know more than what's been fed to them from other unreliable sources.
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