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Slimebeast on 30 January 2016
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Puppyroach said:
Slimebeast said:

"small percentage"? No, it's a large percentage of immigrants in Sweden that are prone to violence.

Wow, you seriously don't see that Swedish media hides and tries to whitewash (skönmåla) immigrant crime? The reason that Cologne got so big in media was because it was covered up by the Police in Germany and right-wing blogs had to dig up the truth until mainstream media picked it up.

And the assaults by immigrants at the festival in Stockholm last summer is documented to be covered up by DN, our biggest newspaper in Sweden. The only reason it was brought up now is because of all the attention to Cologne and the following discussion about Police cover-ups and censorship in many Western countries.

Yeah, nazi-racists have sentiment towards children. I didn't claim that in my post though, but sure, I actually think racists often have quite noble values towards family, children, nature and animals. Much much much more sentiment than some foreign cultures display, for sure.

The problem with nazi-racists I think is not only that they're prone to violence but mainly that they're totalitarian like you say, they want to control society and crush democracy. I'm totally against that, I hate totalitarian ideology.

Why are you lying about Cologne? "criminal groups"? That's an utter lie. It was text messages sent from one immigrant to the other, and thousands of immigrants just hopped on. In Sweden, in Finland and in Germany and many other countries. Criminal groups instigated the immigrants to sexually assault at that Stockholm festival too?

Wow, I'm getting angry now. You seriously don't draw any conlusions when you see these patterns where thousands of men from certain cultures are behaving in a certain way, that perhaps there's a difference in values? That we're talking about behaviour thats is far more more common and actually fairly representative for the average, than it's comparable to fringe phenomenons like European nazis.

Why do you try to whitewash them? Does your rosy world fall apart if the truth is that men from the Middle East largely have a chauvinistic view towards women and that many of them are egoistical and lack compassion?

 So the Nazi-rascists that you admit are prone to violence are caring and loving people when it comes to women and children? Ok...

I am not lying about anything. But I don´t assume anything about a whole group of people from different nations without facts. If we assume that one thousand refugees had commited these acts, the would still only account for parts of one thousand of all refugees.

I am not trying to whitewash any criminal. In my view, there is no difference between a right-wing radical from Sweden or one from Syria. What I am saying is that I never take what a few radicals are doing, and apply it to the rest of the population. The mistake we do throughout history is to generalize; about women as a whole, about men as a whole, about jews, about muslims, about black or asian or indian.

The foremost adversary against ISIS right now, is muslim nations. The rebels against Assad, are muslims. Most people seek freedom from oppression. Do I agree that the view n women in a lot of these countries is not good? Absolutely. Do I therefore think most people think rape or assault on women is ok? Absolutely not.

I imagine many of them are wife beaters, that's why I put "family" there instead of women. But I don't know enough.

Yes you kind of lied because you are ready to believe that the assaults were organized by criminal groups (speculation), but not willing to make an obvious conclusion: that many Middle eastern young men are prone to commit violence against women. Don't you really ask yourself how on earth is it possible to sway thousands of young men to behave like this all over Europe?

This is like talking to a stone. What is your problem? This is what makes me so mad about anti-racists. Always defend the immigrant, always criticize your own. Total disrespect for truth.

The point is that they aren't radicals. The chauvinist view on women is widespread and rooted in their culture, and therefore relatively little is needed for them to commit these kinds of heinous acts. An average Swedish male is much less prone to act like this, and you know it.

And about generalization. This is ridiculous. You're generalizing yourself! You assume that racists in general don't sympathize with women and children or else you wouldn't find it "absolutely amazing" to believe that racists have sentiment towards children. That's hypocricy.

Why do you bring up Assad and ISIS? That these guys are fleeing the horrors of Assad and ISIS makes it all just even more perverted, that they have the stomach to behave like this as soon as they reach a safe haven? To me it says that these guys never felt very oppressed or threatened at all, because someone who is fleeing from his life simply wouldn't show this supremacist behaviour.

I'm disgusted. This tolerance is for no good. Our country is filled with guys like you and forest-spirit who act as apologists for immigrants. Nobody will thank you, nobody gives a rats ass about your humanism and tolerance. All it does is that foreigners feel even more secure to behave like they want, that whatever bad they do there's always going to be a flock of people who's going to explain away their bad behaviour. And it makes our country worse.

Damn it I hate Sweden so much. "The humanitarian super power", where people imagine that they're holier than Jesus. We are the most insane people in the world, and thankfully this mass immigration has one positive the side effect: that soon this sick people will be extinct.