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Slimebeast on 30 January 2016
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Puppyroach said:
Slimebeast said:

They're not "kids", they're criminal teenagers and young men. The racists attacked them to show that there's resistance towards their criminal activity despite our politicians and the police being lenient towards it.

The racist assault was not an example of wanting to "oppress kids". That's an unfair description. More correct is to describe it as a criminal reaction to imported criminals who have been allowed to roam around for far too long.

And stop with your relativization and self hate - it's not regardless of culture. Some cultures have far less elements that want to oppress women and kids than other cultures have. It's dishonest not to acknowledge that.

And the reason you haven't heard about these criminal Morrocans is not because it's a minor problem, it's because media is silent about it on purpose, because if the truth came out it would increase anti-immigrant sentiments in Sweden.

The racists are extremists in society, that I agree with, but the assaults in Cologne were widespread all over Europe. That was not "extremist", because these acts represented much larger segments of the population in question than just the very extreme. And that's the issue here, that's the danger. If it was a fringe phenomenon by extremists, it wouldn't be as worrying. But now it is much more common and demands a different analysis.

How convenient that the media is "covering up" only the facts that would suit your argument? If the media is so eager to cover up attacks executed by a small percentage of the refugees, why did they write about the attacks in Cologne or those at a festival in Stocholm?

And I find it absolutely amazing that you think rascists would have any sentiment towards children- There is no difference between a rascist and a radical muslim pr a nazi; they are all right-wing extremists that want to control society through violence.

The attacks in Cologne seems to have been organized by criminal groups throughout Europe, but why should we then apply their behaviour on all refugees in Europe? When we see coordinated nazi demonstrations around Sweden, should we then assume all Swedes share their views?

"small percentage"? No, it's a large percentage of immigrants in Sweden that are prone to violence.

Wow, you seriously don't see that Swedish media hides and tries to whitewash (skönmåla) immigrant crime? The reason that Cologne got so big in media was because it was covered up by the Police in Germany and right-wing blogs had to dig up the truth until mainstream media picked it up.

And the assaults by immigrants at the festival in Stockholm last summer is documented to be covered up by DN, our biggest newspaper in Sweden. The only reason it was brought up now is because of all the attention to Cologne and the following discussion about Police cover-ups and censorship in many Western countries.

Yeah, nazi-racists have sentiment towards children. I didn't claim that in my post though, but sure, I actually think racists often have quite noble values towards family, children, nature and animals. Much much much more sentiment than some foreign cultures display, for sure.

The problem with nazi-racists I think is not only that they're prone to violence but mainly that they're totalitarian like you say, they want to control society and crush democracy. I'm totally against that, I hate totalitarian ideology.

Why are you lying about Cologne? "criminal groups"? That's an utter lie. It was text messages sent from one immigrant to the other, and thousands of immigrants just hopped on. In Sweden, in Finland and in Germany and many other countries. Criminal groups instigated the immigrants to sexually assault at that Stockholm festival too?

Wow, I'm getting angry now. You seriously don't draw any conlusions when you see these patterns where thousands of men from certain cultures are behaving in a certain way, that perhaps there's a difference in values? That we're talking about behaviour thats is far more more common and actually fairly representative for the average, than it's comparable to fringe phenomenons like European nazis.

Why do you try to whitewash them? Does your rosy world fall apart if the truth is that men from the Middle East largely have a chauvinistic view towards women and that many of them are egoistical and lack compassion?