Torillian said:
sabvre42 said:
Torillian said:
Dulfite said:
It's not a rule against his own ability to be in sin, that is a common misconception. Sin is literally the opposite of God, because HE is totally holy and righteous. Sin is the absence of godliness. Again, people act like loving God is a sacrifice or that it's forced. HE is extending HIS hand to you and everyone else at all times. If people want to reject that hand, how is it God's fault? I love every second I've had since becoming a Christian, not just because I'm now saved (that's just the beginning) but now I have a relationship with the creator of myself, the way it was meant to be, and HE is constantly changing me for the better and ridding me of sinful desires and replacing those desires with love for HIM and love for HIS children (all humans). I have never loved believers in Christ and non believers more than I do now and I know that will continue to grow.
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So what stops him from forgiving people of their sin without the whole "you have to love me and believe in me even though I gave you an analytical brain and refuse to prove myself logically" thing? The concept of an all-powerful all-loving god that sends you to hell if you don't believe in him either requires that he has to (not all-powerful) or wants to (not all-loving).
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FYI - This is a classical misinterpretation. It wasn't until The Divine Comedy that hell was considered to be the concept that it is now. Its often considered a misintrepration by the catholic church in order to scare people into good behavior.
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So then there is no hell or hell isn't a place of fire and burning? Because if there isn't hell and everyone goes to heaven I don't really have to concern myself with believing in god, and if there is a hell and god sends people there then I don't want to believe in an asshole.
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That depends on the particular interpretation of the bible. I like to consider heaven the judiac version of nirvana/ the "dao"/etc.
If the bible is correct -- you may still be sent to hell. But it wouldn't be the torture that Dante made it out to be. Its more likely a version of "purgatory". Or the ones left behind during "the rapture".
The concept of non believers being damned to hell has too many problems for most foward thinking christians to believe in (same with infant baptism for catholics... and misscarried children being damned to hell). Take for example a person that grew up isolated on a deserted island. Why would "god" punish them for them not having been given a chance?
