| Dulfite said: Lighting isn't the building blocks of existence itself, though, so it's not really comparable. And I've heard the eternal thing (the one where the universe expands into nothingness, then retracts and starts all over again, again and again, right?), but if that were true why did it start doing that? Why is there anything? Why is there nothing? No amount of math can prove why there is something instead of nothing. None of us can even comprehend nothing, truly. As for where did God come from, HE didn't. HE was and is and will always be there. That is my Christian belief, based on faith. I can't explain it to you. It's a faith thing. I wrestled with the logic against it long ago, and my faith in God came out victorious and now, years/decades later, nothing else even makes sense to me. Having Christ changes you and changes your perspective, but it's not something that someone who doesn't have Christ can understand fully, so me trying to explain it would be futile. It's just something people have to experience themselves, they can't understand it with their brains alone. |
When it comes to the big bang, you're asking a lot of questions. And that's fine people should ask questions, because that's how we learn things.
Then, when you start talking about god, suddenly, evidence doesn't matter. And it's fine if YOU want to believe that, but to come into a topic asking for proof of god to point out flaws in other models as your evidence is hypocritical. Your claims are not special and need to be subjected to the same level of scrutiny if you want to consider them as proof.
As for the whole "you need Christ to get Christ" thing, I've heard it before, and it absolutely seems bizarre. I was not raised to believe in christ, so I have no predisposition towards that concept. So, to understand it, I have to believe it first. But to believe it, I need to already have it. And the only way to get it is through an experience that I have no control over @_@...
So, as a side question, do you believe that non-believers are punished? If so, is it fair to punish people for not believing in something that they need experience to believe, when that experience has not been provided?
I take it from your response that your answer is "no god's existence is not objectively verifiable". Which is fine, so long as you don't expect people to believe it.
